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Old May 17th 08, 12:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Buster Hymen
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

There is no visual reference that will tell you whether or not you
are coordinated in a turn and there is nothing magical or mystical to
the sensation once you've felt it.


Well, close your eyes and make the turn, and see where you end up.

True but irrelevant.


On the contrary, it's important. Can you really be sure that your
turn is perfectly coordinated and that you are holding altitude
without ever looking at the instruments? How do you know how far
you've turned? How do you tell the difference between an
uncoordinated turn and being pushed by the wind?

In VFR you are much safer looking out the window than staring at the
instruments like a simmer, especially in a turn.


In VFR you are safest if you do both. And you can look out the window
in a sim, too.

Wrong.


How do you know the difference between a coordinated turn and, say, an
uncoordinated turn that encounters wind that moves the aircraft? If
you depend on sensation alone, an updraft or downdraft might make you
think that an uncoordinated turn is level and coordinated, when in
fact it is uncoordinated and you are climbing or descending.


Anthony, are you talking from your exensive experience in up/down drafts in
a real airplane or is this yet another of your fantasies while jerking off
to MSFS?

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Old May 17th 08, 06:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:


There is no visual reference that will tell you whether or not you are
coordinated in a turn and there is nothing magical or mystical to the
sensation once you've felt it.


Well, close your eyes and make the turn, and see where you end up.


That's yet another blazingly stupid comment to make.

True but irrelevant.


On the contrary, it's important. Can you really be sure that your turn is
perfectly coordinated and that you are holding altitude without ever looking
at the instruments?


Yes.

How do you know how far you've turned?


Looking out the window. It is a VFR turn, remember from the stuff you cut?

How do you tell
the difference between an uncoordinated turn and being pushed by the wind?


Once again a blazingly stupid comment that shows you know nothing about
flying.

In VFR you are much safer looking out the window than staring at the
instruments like a simmer, especially in a turn.


In VFR you are safest if you do both. And you can look out the window in a
sim, too.


Wrong.

You are safest spending as much time as possible looking out the window.

When low and slow I will occasionally glance at the turn coordinator,
but other than that it is basically ignored.

Wrong.


How do you know the difference between a coordinated turn and, say, an
uncoordinated turn that encounters wind that moves the aircraft? If you
depend on sensation alone, an updraft or downdraft might make you think that
an uncoordinated turn is level and coordinated, when in fact it is
uncoordinated and you are climbing or descending.


Utter nonsense.

Since you have never flown, you have no idea just how idiotic that statement
is.


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Old May 17th 08, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:


On the contrary, it's important. Can you really be sure that your turn is
perfectly coordinated and that you are holding altitude without ever looking
at the instruments?


Yes.


How?


Training in a real airplane.

Looking out the window. It is a VFR turn, remember from the stuff you cut?


Looking out the window is no longer flying by the seat of your pants, which
disproves your assertion.


Yet another blazingly stupid response that shows you know nothing about
real flight, not even the terminology.

The term "flying by the seat of your pants" does not mean flying blindfolded.

How do you tell
the difference between an uncoordinated turn and being pushed by the wind?


Once again a blazingly stupid comment that shows you know nothing about
flying.


How do you tell the difference between an uncoordinated turn and being pushed
by the wind?


Yet another blazingly stupid response that shows you know nothing about
real flight.

You are safest spending as much time as possible looking out the window.


Why? I thought you could fly by the seat of your pants?


Yet another blazingly stupid response that shows you know nothing about
real flight, not even the terminology.

The term "flying by the seat of your pants" does not mean flying blindfolded.


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