Pitch vs. trim in flight phases

On 2008-05-17, Mike Isaksen wrote:
"Jay Maynard" wrote ...
... I consider inop electric trim (either elevator or
aileron) to be a no go condition in the Zodiac.
Do Zodiacs come with aileron trim standard, or did you mean rudder trim?

Aileron trim isn't exactly standard, but it's a cheap ($750) and very common
option.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)

On 2008-05-17, Dudley Henriques wrote:
In addition to the practical side of the sim , I have also been
fortunate in that some of the finest designers connected with MSFS have
created exact virtual replications for me of several aircraft I have
flown and been involved with personally during my career and I have
these aircraft appearing exactly as they existed and looked in real life
even to their tail numbers in the sim to enjoy, allowing both my family
and friends to experience a bit of my tenure in aviation.

Who does this kind of work? If it's not too expensive, I wouldn't mind
having a MSFS replica of N55ZC.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)

On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:55:22 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

Another good way of preventing excessive grip on the stick or yoke is to
start the student from day one handling the airplane with their
fingertips ONLY. Worked well for me for every student I taught to fly.


My instructor did the same.

One or two fingers and a thumb, trim to make it possible.

Trim, trim, and trim some more...

B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:55:22 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

Another good way of preventing excessive grip on the stick or yoke is to
start the student from day one handling the airplane with their
fingertips ONLY. Worked well for me for every student I taught to fly.


My instructor did the same.

One or two fingers and a thumb, trim to make it possible.

Trim, trim, and trim some more...

On long cross countries in some of the WW2 prop fighters we handled on
occasion, I would set up and trim out carefully then relax in the seat
as comfortably as I could and fly the trim wheels. With a bit of
practice it became possible to hold the altimeter needle to within a few
feet of desired :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-05-17, Dudley Henriques wrote:
In addition to the practical side of the sim , I have also been
fortunate in that some of the finest designers connected with MSFS have
created exact virtual replications for me of several aircraft I have
flown and been involved with personally during my career and I have
these aircraft appearing exactly as they existed and looked in real life
even to their tail numbers in the sim to enjoy, allowing both my family
and friends to experience a bit of my tenure in aviation.

Who does this kind of work? If it's not too expensive, I wouldn't mind
having a MSFS replica of N55ZC.

I don't think these folks do it for money. These were done as special
favors for me by devs I worked with on their various projects. I never
charge these folks, and they have always been very appreciative of the
work I've done for them.
You might contact some of them via email and ask them. It wouldn't do
any harm I'm sure.


--
Dudley Henriques

On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:37:44 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

On long cross countries in some of the WW2 prop fighters we handled on
occasion, I would set up and trim out carefully then relax in the seat
as comfortably as I could and fly the trim wheels. With a bit of
practice it became possible to hold the altimeter needle to within a few
feet of desired :-)


I had the same guy for instrument training, and the trim training made
IFR with no AP far, far easier.

A well trimmed aircraft is a pleasure, and very little work, to fly.

B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:37:44 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:
On long cross countries in some of the WW2 prop fighters we handled on
occasion, I would set up and trim out carefully then relax in the seat
as comfortably as I could and fly the trim wheels. With a bit of
practice it became possible to hold the altimeter needle to within a few
feet of desired :-)


I had the same guy for instrument training, and the trim training made
IFR with no AP far, far easier.

A well trimmed aircraft is a pleasure, and very little work, to fly.

Very true.

--
Dudley Henriques

Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-05-17, Dudley Henriques wrote:
In addition to the practical side of the sim , I have also been
fortunate in that some of the finest designers connected with MSFS have
created exact virtual replications for me of several aircraft I have
flown and been involved with personally during my career and I have
these aircraft appearing exactly as they existed and looked in real life
even to their tail numbers in the sim to enjoy, allowing both my family
and friends to experience a bit of my tenure in aviation.

Who does this kind of work? If it's not too expensive, I wouldn't mind
having a MSFS replica of N55ZC.

Jay, I should add that in both cases where this was done for me, each
aircraft involved was the type we were working on at the time; one a
P51D by Shockwave through an independent repainter and another, an F86
by an independent design team.


--
Dudley Henriques

In article ,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:37:44 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:
On long cross countries in some of the WW2 prop fighters we handled on
occasion, I would set up and trim out carefully then relax in the seat
as comfortably as I could and fly the trim wheels. With a bit of
practice it became possible to hold the altimeter needle to within a few
feet of desired :-)


I had the same guy for instrument training, and the trim training made
IFR with no AP far, far easier.

A well trimmed aircraft is a pleasure, and very little work, to fly.

Very true.

A fun exercise is to take your hands off the yoke completely and fly with
just power, trim, and rudder. It really teaches you to make small
adjustments and to wait for the plane to settle down before making another
change.

On a calm day, and perhaps with a couple of attempts, a good student can
usually get the plane over the runway in a state where if they continued
that way, the landing would probably be survivable :-)

On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:55:58 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:


A fun exercise is to take your hands off the yoke completely and fly with
just power, trim, and rudder. It really teaches you to make small
adjustments and to wait for the plane to settle down before making another
change.


It is!

Once upon a time, folks learned to fly r/c in a similar manner. It
teaches loads about aerodynamics.