I give up, after many, many years!

On May 17, 8:33 pm, More_Flaps wrote:
On May 18, 1:59 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
....
After doing a weird manuever, it's hard to tell if you're
in a banking turn or a spiral dive, that's how I learned.
Maybe a good pilot could use VFR as a ref, but I was
clued in by my IAS needle going into yellow.

BS! In VFR the position of the horizon tells you the difference. In
many planes there is no AH 'cos you don't need it for VFR!
The engine noise also tells you if you are descending or climging.
Cheers

What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:becc28f3-ebc0-4793-
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On May 17, 8:33 pm, More_Flaps wrote:
On May 18, 1:59 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
...
After doing a weird manuever, it's hard to tell if you're
in a banking turn or a spiral dive, that's how I learned.
Maybe a good pilot could use VFR as a ref, but I was
clued in by my IAS needle going into yellow.

BS! In VFR the position of the horizon tells you the difference. In
many planes there is no AH 'cos you don't need it for VFR!
The engine noise also tells you if you are descending or climging.
Cheers

What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".
Ken

BULL ****.

There are only 3 required flight instruments. An AH is NOT one of them.
Many people learned to fly without an AH or DG. They were students, not
experienced pilots.

You are just as big an asshole as Anthony.

On May 18, 3:46*pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On May 17, 8:33 pm, More_Flaps wrote:

On May 18, 1:59 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
...
After doing a weird manuever, it's hard to tell if you're
in a banking turn or a spiral dive, that's how I learned.
Maybe a good pilot could use VFR as a ref, but I was
clued in by my IAS needle going into yellow.

BS! In VFR the position of the horizon tells you the difference. In
many planes there is no AH 'cos you don't need it for VFR!
The engine noise also tells you if you are descending or climging.
Cheers

What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Cheers

On May 18, 1:03*am, WingFlaps wrote:

As *a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Very good excercise IMHO.

Friend of mine posted in these forums that the pitot tube ingested a
bug. While he may have had better odds hitting the lottery, things
happen IN FLIGHT.

On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

On May 18, 1:50 pm, george wrote:
On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

LOL George, WingFlaps, is pulling your middle keg,
it's a common BS scenario.
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.
Ken

On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:00:48 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote:


With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.

On final?

Have you ever really landed an airplane?

On May 18, 2:07 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:00:48 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.

On final?
Have you ever really landed an airplane?

Yeah, I use the manuals IAS and InDescent
indicator recommendations, with an eye on
attitude and adjust to the runway numbers,
with the expanding keystone, (the airstrip is
an expanding quadrangle, even in sims).
I'll float down to 37 KIAS alone in a 150 using
the stall horn frequency and amplitude, for fun.

Landing is my fav especially with serious X-wind.
Coming in with 30 deg crab, and waltz the machine
gently over the numbers is like dancing with a
beautiful woman, and then the flare, either way,
it's a rush when it all harmonizes.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:ce3a7db9-d346-
:

On May 18, 2:07 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:00:48 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.

On final?
Have you ever really landed an airplane?

Yeah, I use the manuals IAS and InDescent
indicator recommendations, with an eye on
attitude and adjust to the runway numbers,
with the expanding keystone, (the airstrip is
an expanding quadrangle, even in sims).
I'll float down to 37 KIAS alone in a 150 using
the stall horn frequency and amplitude, for fun.

Landing is my fav especially with serious X-wind.
Coming in with 30 deg crab, and waltz the machine
gently over the numbers is like dancing with a
beautiful woman, and then the flare, either way,
it's a rush when it all harmonizes.


Good grief.



Bertie

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:86f3c535-1fcd-4dbf-
:

On May 18, 1:50 pm, george wrote:
On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

LOL George, WingFlaps, is pulling your middle keg,
it's a common BS scenario.
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.
Ken


Ken, you stupid mother ****er, not all aircraft have a stall buzzer. Some
are not even required to have one.