I give up, after many, many years!

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:86f3c535-1fcd-
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On May 18, 1:50 pm, george wrote:
On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly
blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when
the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

LOL George, WingFlaps, is pulling your middle keg,
it's a common BS scenario.
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh


Just when you think he can't say anything more stupid, he does.

Bertie

On May 19, 9:00*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On May 18, 1:50 pm, george wrote:

On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As *a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

LOL George, WingFlaps, is pulling your middle keg,
it's a common BS scenario.
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.
Ken

Nope, no buzzer and not near stall..

Cheers

More_Flaps wrote in

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Nope, no buzzer and not near stall..

Yep .. particularly if your airplane doesn't have a stall buzzer.

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On May 19, 8:50*am, george wrote:
On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As *a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

You betcha and feel of the controls.

Cheers

On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:46:40 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote:

What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".

I disagree totally. You must be numb.

Both of my vehicles sound, feel, and act significantly different at 80
than they do at 65 MPH. In top gear of my Toyota, the RPM's are about
400 higher. On the same token, It's not all that difficult to tell
25 from 35, if I try.

The wind noise is different, the tach shows a different RPM, and the
corresponding engine pitch is noticeably different.

Back to the pilot...

The _change_ in sounds is a great clue, not just that it's all
different and steady.

On May 18, 3:54 am, B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:46:40 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".

I disagree totally. You must be numb.

Both of my vehicles sound, feel, and act significantly different at 80
than they do at 65 MPH. In top gear of my Toyota, the RPM's are about
400 higher. On the same token, It's not all that difficult to tell
25 from 35, if I try.

The wind noise is different, the tach shows a different RPM, and the
corresponding engine pitch is noticeably different.

Back to the pilot...

The _change_ in sounds is a great clue, not just that it's all
different and steady.

Yeah you've got it right.
This was wifes new Gran Caravan, almost dead quiet
inside and I was unfamiliar with it. Your thesis hinges
on a familiarity with craft.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:abc4c280-5dce-
:

On May 18, 3:54 am, B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:46:40 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".

I disagree totally. You must be numb.

Both of my vehicles sound, feel, and act significantly different at
80
than they do at 65 MPH. In top gear of my Toyota, the RPM's are
about
400 higher. On the same token, It's not all that difficult to tell
25 from 35, if I try.

The wind noise is different, the tach shows a different RPM, and the
corresponding engine pitch is noticeably different.

Back to the pilot...

The _change_ in sounds is a great clue, not just that it's all
different and steady.

Yeah you've got it right.
This was wifes new Gran Caravan, almost dead quiet
inside and I was unfamiliar with it. Your thesis hinges
on a familiarity with craft.

And there he goes again... It's like a graveyard spiral of stupid.

Bertie

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:becc28f3-ebc0-
:

On May 17, 8:33 pm, More_Flaps wrote:
On May 18, 1:59 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
...
After doing a weird manuever, it's hard to tell if you're
in a banking turn or a spiral dive, that's how I learned.
Maybe a good pilot could use VFR as a ref, but I was
clued in by my IAS needle going into yellow.

BS! In VFR the position of the horizon tells you the difference. In
many planes there is no AH 'cos you don't need it for VFR!
The engine noise also tells you if you are descending or climging.
Cheers

What you say is true, for a good experienced pilot,
who have flown disorientation exersizes.
But I'll provide this challenge, block off the speedometer
in your car and I'll bet you'll have a problem driving.
What happens to me is I drift up to 80 MPH, then
go "holy poop".


you're a moron.


Bertie