I give up, after many, many years!

writes:

If you "trust but verify your instruments" you will be here to share
your experiences. Part of that verification BEGINS with the seat of
your pants feeling.

Since the instruments are the most reliable source of information, "verifying"
them against any other source serves no purpose.

Out of 825+ flight hours I have flown, 59.4 were in IMC, so I would
believe I am reasonably qualified to stress the importance of the
above based on personal experience even though I am not an instructor.

Perhaps when you have 500 hours in IMC, you'll place more trust in your
instruments and be less inclined to think that you can fly IFR by feel.

On May 18, 11:14*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

Perhaps when you have 500 hours in IMC, you'll place more trust in your
instruments and be less inclined to think that you can fly IFR by feel.

You do that, and you will be a statistic. Amount of hours in IMC
have nothing to do with it.

Complacency has no room in a cockpit of a real airplane.

MSFS, yes you can be complacent, no big deal. In a real airplane that
leaves the real ground, it doesn't work that way, VFR or IFR.

TRUST BUT VERIFY..............

I talk from experience from using MSFS and flying a real airplane. Can
you?

A Lieberman writes:

Complacency has no room in a cockpit of a real airplane.

In hard IMC, going by the book is the proper procedure. Flying by feel is
dangerous.

I talk from experience from using MSFS and flying a real airplane.

A lot of accident pilots have had either or both. I really cannot see any
reason to lend credence to your assertion.

On May 18, 11:33*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

A lot of accident pilots have had either or both. *I really cannot see any
reason to lend credence to your assertion.

Don't care what you think, I care what other students see and want to
be sure they know what you say is WRONG.

writes:

Don't care what you think, I care what other students see and want to
be sure they know what you say is WRONG.

Smart students will look things up, rather than believe you or me. If they
look things up, they'll find out who's right, although it's not really
important to keep score.

On May 18, 1:33*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Smart students will look things up, rather than believe you or me.

Smart students get in real airplanes and will be able to confirm
everything I have posted..

Last I knew there was no requirement for a license to play MSFS nor is
there any formal training courses nor does it replace getting in a
real C152 or C172 for training..

A Lieberman writes:

Smart students get in real airplanes and will be able to confirm
everything I have posted.

Getting in a real airplane won't help. You don't learn to fly by trial and
error.

A Lieberman wrote:
On May 18, 11:14 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
mplacency has no room in a cockpit of a real airplane.

MSFS, yes you can be complacent, no big deal. In a real airplane that
leaves the real ground, it doesn't work that way, VFR or IFR.

TRUST BUT VERIFY..............

I talk from experience from using MSFS and flying a real airplane. Can
you?

I can, Lieberman.

You are correct.

-c

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
writes:

Since the instruments are the most reliable source of information,
"verifying"
them against any other source serves no purpose.


That's a hell of a statement.

Steve Foley writes:

That's a hell of a statement.

Safety first.