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Old May 18th 08, 05:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On May 18, 11:14*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

Perhaps when you have 500 hours in IMC, you'll place more trust in your
instruments and be less inclined to think that you can fly IFR by feel.


You do that, and you will be a statistic. Amount of hours in IMC
have nothing to do with it.

Complacency has no room in a cockpit of a real airplane.

MSFS, yes you can be complacent, no big deal. In a real airplane that
leaves the real ground, it doesn't work that way, VFR or IFR.

TRUST BUT VERIFY..............

I talk from experience from using MSFS and flying a real airplane. Can
you?
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Old May 18th 08, 05:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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A Lieberman writes:

Complacency has no room in a cockpit of a real airplane.


In hard IMC, going by the book is the proper procedure. Flying by feel is
dangerous.

I talk from experience from using MSFS and flying a real airplane.


A lot of accident pilots have had either or both. I really cannot see any
reason to lend credence to your assertion.
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Old May 18th 08, 05:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On May 18, 11:33*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

A lot of accident pilots have had either or both. *I really cannot see any
reason to lend credence to your assertion.


Don't care what you think, I care what other students see and want to
be sure they know what you say is WRONG.

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Old May 18th 08, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On May 18, 1:33*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Smart students will look things up, rather than believe you or me.


Smart students get in real airplanes and will be able to confirm
everything I have posted..

Last I knew there was no requirement for a license to play MSFS nor is
there any formal training courses nor does it replace getting in a
real C152 or C172 for training..
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Old May 18th 08, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

A Lieberman writes:

Smart students get in real airplanes and will be able to confirm
everything I have posted.


Getting in a real airplane won't help. You don't learn to fly by trial and
error.
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Old May 19th 08, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

A Lieberman wrote:
On May 18, 11:14 am, Mxsmanic wrote:

mplacency has no room in a cockpit of a real airplane.

MSFS, yes you can be complacent, no big deal. In a real airplane that
leaves the real ground, it doesn't work that way, VFR or IFR.

TRUST BUT VERIFY..............

I talk from experience from using MSFS and flying a real airplane. Can
you?


I can, Lieberman.

You are correct.

-c


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Old May 18th 08, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:


Since the instruments are the most reliable source of information,
"verifying"
them against any other source serves no purpose.


That's a hell of a statement.


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Old May 18th 08, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Steve Foley writes:

That's a hell of a statement.


Safety first.
 




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