I give up, after many, many years!

On May 18, 3:11*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Steve Foley writes:
That's a hell of a statement.

Safety first.

Yep, go ahead, try leveling off with an AI ERRONEOUSLY showing a 20
pitch up. Go ahead and trust that instrument.

Hey try it in your simulator. I bet you will crash and burn in your
simulated environment.

Not for me thanks in a real airplane. I will trust but verify every
time I leave terra firma including using the seat of my pants to
verify power inputs..

This method has worked for me in the past six years of my instrument
flying, and I sure won't change it because you say put my life in
instruments without crosschecking and verifying it. Don't get me
wrong, I am still a student every time I walk on the ramp, and got
plenty to learn and open to it, but when you tell me what I feel and
do is incorrect and you have never experience the sensation of flight
in a GA plane, you have NO credibility.

With your attitude, I am glad you are using a simulator, as you
wouldn't survive the basic 180 turn for VFR pilots much less slogging
along in the clag for a couple of hours to terminate that flight with
an approach that required procedure turns and circle to land that was
one of my major accomplishments in my small corner of the world..

On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

A Lieberman writes:

Smart students get in real airplanes and will be able to confirm
everything I have posted.

Getting in a real airplane won't help. You don't learn to fly by
trial and error.


Another moronic statement by the web's biggest ****ing moron.

A Lieberman wrote in news:239a8887-7f34-42e4-b1c1-
:

With your attitude, I am glad you are using a simulator, as you
wouldn't survive the basic 180 turn for VFR pilots much less slogging
along in the clag for a couple of hours to terminate that flight with
an approach that required procedure turns and circle to land that was
one of my major accomplishments in my small corner of the world..

This newsgroup would be much better off if Anthony did try his piloting
skills in a real airplane. He'll be dead and we'll be rid of him.

A Lieberman writes:

WRONG

Learning by trial and error is a poor policy when errors can be fatal.

On May 19, 8:55 am, Benjamin Dover wrote:

This newsgroup would be much better off if Anthony did try his piloting
skills in a real airplane. He'll be dead and we'll be rid of him.

No. That would mean that he's destroyed an aircraft.

On May 18, 1:50 pm, george wrote:
On May 18, 6:03 pm, WingFlaps wrote:

As a matter of fact, during training my instructor regularly blanked
off the ASI in the circuit and yet I still managed to trim to the
correct final approach speed to within 4 knots (as revealed when the
papaer was removed). Explain that -and no I'm not a very gifted
pilot...

Power setting and attitude ?

LOL George, WingFlaps, is pulling your middle keg,
it's a common BS scenario.
With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.
Ken

On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:19:14 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On May 18, 3:10*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

What's the tail number of your aircraft, so I can recognize it in the NTSB
report?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1943L


Hey! I know an owner of 1958L, another Sundowner.

I wonder if you plane remembers his from the assembly line? G

On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:00:48 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote:


With ASI out, use the back-up stall buzzer on final,
then 4 knot accuracy is easy...duh.

On final?

Have you ever really landed an airplane?

A Lieberman writes:

Yep, go ahead, try leveling off with an AI ERRONEOUSLY showing a 20
pitch up. Go ahead and trust that instrument.

The AI is the most reliable instrument on most aircraft, after the magnetic
compass. And of course you'll want two, just in case one fails, for IFR.

Hey try it in your simulator. I bet you will crash and burn in your
simulated environment.

Hmm. I'll try it sometime.

This method has worked for me in the past six years of my instrument
flying ...

It always seems to work ... until the day that it doesn't.

Don't get me
wrong, I am still a student every time I walk on the ramp, and got
plenty to learn and open to it, but when you tell me what I feel and
do is incorrect and you have never experience the sensation of flight
in a GA plane, you have NO credibility.

Well, read a book. Talk to a CFI. It's your life, not mine.