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Old May 19th 08, 05:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Ken S. Tucker
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Default Mxsmanic , IFR sensations, and some other stuff

On May 19, 7:58 am, Tina wrote:
JFK was in a spiral from about 5000 feet when he crashed. A 200 foot
error in his altimeter was the least of his problems.

He had more training for in IR than most do when they pass the test.
This was a case of a pilot who, it would seem, was crossing the sound
with an auto pilot engaged. Radar showed a smooth flight until that
point when most would have started down to pattern altitude from 5000
feet. The airplane went from pretty straight and pretty level to
impact in less than 30 seconds.

The NTSB report is vivid and frightening.


Thank you Tina, I just reread this,
http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief2.asp?...MA178& akey=1
Somewhat applicable to this thread!
Ken
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Old May 19th 08, 05:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default Mxsmanic , IFR sensations, and some other stuff

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

On May 19, 7:58 am, Tina wrote:
JFK was in a spiral from about 5000 feet when he crashed. A 200 foot
error in his altimeter was the least of his problems.

He had more training for in IR than most do when they pass the test.
This was a case of a pilot who, it would seem, was crossing the sound
with an auto pilot engaged. Radar showed a smooth flight until that
point when most would have started down to pattern altitude from 5000
feet. The airplane went from pretty straight and pretty level to
impact in less than 30 seconds.

The NTSB report is vivid and frightening.


Thank you Tina, I just reread this,




Not that it would mean anything to you.


Bertie


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Old May 19th 08, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gezellig
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Default Mxsmanic , IFR sensations, and some other stuff

On Mon, 19 May 2008 16:33:33 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

On May 19, 7:58 am, Tina wrote:
JFK was in a spiral from about 5000 feet when he crashed. A 200 foot
error in his altimeter was the least of his problems.

He had more training for in IR than most do when they pass the test.
This was a case of a pilot who, it would seem, was crossing the sound
with an auto pilot engaged. Radar showed a smooth flight until that
point when most would have started down to pattern altitude from 5000
feet. The airplane went from pretty straight and pretty level to
impact in less than 30 seconds.

The NTSB report is vivid and frightening.


Thank you Tina, I just reread this,


Not that it would mean anything to you.

Bertie


Hey, Bertie, for one thread in your oh so busy day of doing nothing but
projecting yourself as a complete Usenet asshole, why not give it a
****ing rest?
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Old May 19th 08, 08:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Benjamin Dover
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Gezellig wrote in :

On Mon, 19 May 2008 16:33:33 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

On May 19, 7:58 am, Tina wrote:
JFK was in a spiral from about 5000 feet when he crashed. A 200 foot
error in his altimeter was the least of his problems.

He had more training for in IR than most do when they pass the test.
This was a case of a pilot who, it would seem, was crossing the sound
with an auto pilot engaged. Radar showed a smooth flight until that
point when most would have started down to pattern altitude from 5000
feet. The airplane went from pretty straight and pretty level to
impact in less than 30 seconds.

The NTSB report is vivid and frightening.

Thank you Tina, I just reread this,


Not that it would mean anything to you.

Bertie


Hey, Bertie, for one thread in your oh so busy day of doing nothing but
projecting yourself as a complete Usenet asshole, why not give it a
****ing rest?


You're a ****ing moron who doesn't know **** from shinola.

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Old May 19th 08, 08:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default Mxsmanic , IFR sensations, and some other stuff

Gezellig wrote in news:g0skjl$55p$1
@news.albasani.net:

On Mon, 19 May 2008 16:33:33 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

On May 19, 7:58 am, Tina wrote:
JFK was in a spiral from about 5000 feet when he crashed. A 200

foot
error in his altimeter was the least of his problems.

He had more training for in IR than most do when they pass the

test.
This was a case of a pilot who, it would seem, was crossing the

sound
with an auto pilot engaged. Radar showed a smooth flight until that
point when most would have started down to pattern altitude from

5000
feet. The airplane went from pretty straight and pretty level to
impact in less than 30 seconds.

The NTSB report is vivid and frightening.

Thank you Tina, I just reread this,


Not that it would mean anything to you.

Bertie


Hey, Bertie, for one thread in your oh so busy day of doing nothing

but
projecting yourself as a complete Usenet asshole, why not give it a
****ing rest?


Little chance of that, I'm afraid.


Bertie
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Old May 19th 08, 09:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gezellig
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Ken S. Tucker wrote:

On May 19, 7:58 am, Tina wrote:
JFK was in a spiral from about 5000 feet when he crashed. A 200 foot
error in his altimeter was the least of his problems.

He had more training for in IR than most do when they pass the test.
This was a case of a pilot who, it would seem, was crossing the sound
with an auto pilot engaged. Radar showed a smooth flight until that
point when most would have started down to pattern altitude from 5000
feet. The airplane went from pretty straight and pretty level to
impact in less than 30 seconds.

The NTSB report is vivid and frightening.


Thank you Tina, I just reread this,
http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief2.asp?...MA178& akey=1
Somewhat applicable to this thread!
Ken


He was doomed. injured ankle (rudder control issues), inability to
multi-task, turned down a co-ride with his CFI, VFR FNR, the list goes
on.

Tragic but avoidable, my 2 cents.
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Old May 19th 08, 09:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tina
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Default Mxsmanic , IFR sensations, and some other stuff

Chris Anderson's Book "The Day John Died" will offer more insights.

JFK Jr was a known risk taker, and was called the Master of Disaster
by his friends. His ankle may still have been in a cast on this
trip, the result of an injury from an ultra light accident not long
before. It's been said very few of his family and friends were willing
to fly with him. He lacked the superior judgment pilots should have to
avoid circumstances where they may be called upon to display superior
skills.



 




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