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Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

Yep, I didn't get it either but in the full scheme of things, I
wasn't complaining, as at least I had an instructor who wasn't afraid
of touching a cloud.

Even a cloud with a 757 hiding inside?

Is a macho instructor better than a competent instructor? Is it bad
to be afraid of something that can get you killed?


You're a total ****ing ignoramus Anthony. Saying one had an instructor who
was not afraid to touch a cloud has absolutely nothing to do with machismo
or flaunting FAA regulations, be they VFR, IFR, or any other area. You
have no idea what that phrase really means and are simply displaying your
lack of knowlege about aviation just so you can see your post in the
nesgroup. You are a complete and total fraud. You have no real intereste
in aviation. What a maroon!

Buster Hymen writes:

Saying one had an instructor who
was not afraid to touch a cloud has absolutely nothing to do with machismo
or flaunting FAA regulations, be they VFR, IFR, or any other area.

Yes, it does.

The FAA wants you to keep a certain distance from clouds because under VFR you
are maintaining visual separation, and you cannot see what might be inside
those clouds. If you get to close, and another aircraft comes out of the
cloud, you may not have time to react safely.

What a maroon!

Do you see the irony in this?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Buster Hymen writes:

Saying one had an instructor who
was not afraid to touch a cloud has absolutely nothing to do with
machismo or flaunting FAA regulations, be they VFR, IFR, or any other
area.

Yes, it does.

The FAA wants you to keep a certain distance from clouds because under
VFR you are maintaining visual separation, and you cannot see what
might be inside those clouds. If you get to close, and another
aircraft comes out of the cloud, you may not have time to react
safely.

What a maroon!

Do you see the irony in this?


You are soooo ****ing stooopid. You can legally AND safely fly 50' (and
less) from a cloud while VFR. Been there, done that, no big deal.
Something you won't learn on MSFS, you fjukktard.

All your posts are predicated on your total lack of understanding of real
aviation. All you do is regurgitate stuff which in your total lack of
experience you think might be applicable, but in fact is wrong. You don't
understand aviation one whit. You never have and you never will.

Buster Hymen writes:

You are soooo ****ing stooopid. You can legally AND safely fly 50' (and
less) from a cloud while VFR. Been there, done that, no big deal.

In Class C, D, E, and G, you must maintain 2000' of lateral clearance from the
clouds under VFR (except under 1200' AGL in Class G), below 10,000' MSL.
Flying only 50' away from a cloud under VFR is illegal under these conditions.

The main reason for this is that there may be other aircraft in the clouds.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Flying only 50' away from a cloud under VFR is illegal under these
conditions.

It's also illegal while intoxicated, if you don't have a pilot certficiate,
if you don't have a medical, if you are taking prescription meds, and a host
of other reasons.

That's not what he was referring to either.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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In Class C, D, E, and G, you must maintain 2000' of lateral clearance from
the
clouds under VFR (except under 1200' AGL in Class G), below 10,000' MSL.

The above statement is incorrect.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Buster Hymen writes:

You are soooo ****ing stooopid. You can legally AND safely fly 50'
(and less) from a cloud while VFR. Been there, done that, no big
deal.

In Class C, D, E, and G, you must maintain 2000' of lateral clearance
from the clouds under VFR (except under 1200' AGL in Class G), below
10,000' MSL. Flying only 50' away from a cloud under VFR is illegal
under these conditions.

The main reason for this is that there may be other aircraft in the
clouds.


As ususal, Anthony, you don't understand. You're just a dip **** who
doesn't understand the real world of aviation. We're not playing MSFS
here.

Try reading what I said. Then try to think. I know that's a major effort
for you and probably causes you much pain, but try.

I said that one can legally and safely fly 50' from a cloud. Only your
incompetent knowledge of aviation causes you to claim otherwise. You are,
as you usually do, proving to the world that you don't know **** from
shinola.

Legally means that no violation of a FAR occurs. Do you understand that?
Its a simple concept. No FAR violation = legal! Got that? Apparently
not, as your response implies violation of the FARS. No violation of the
FARs occured. I wrote nothing of the sort, you moron. All you did was
regurgitate the rules for VFR flight in class C, D, E, and G airspace
without the slightest understanding of what you were reading. In fact, you
managed to inroduce a subtle error in your regurgitation.

You don't begin to understand. You never have and never will. When it
comes to aviation, you're a total failure, just as you've been in all the
other endeavors in your life. Abject failure describes you to a T.

I'll say it again. Under VFR flight rules, there is a way you can legally
and safely fly 50' from a cloud (above, below, or laterally). You, Anthony,
obviously don't know how. But you won't admit that you don't and,
instead, demonstrating that you don't know **** from shinola, incompetently
conclude it can't be done. Wrong again, fjukktard. Wrong again.

On May 21, 4:51*pm, Buster Hymen wrote:

*Under VFR flight rules, there is a way you can legally
and safely fly 50' from a cloud (above, below, or laterally). You, Anthony,
obviously don't know how. *But you won't admit that you don't and,
instead, demonstrating that you don't know **** from shinola, incompetently
conclude it can't be done. *Wrong again, fjukktard. *Wrong again.

Let me give him a hint.

(B)usy airspace you can sidle up to a cloud up close and personal :-)

(G)round, while not as much space 'tween the cumulogranite and white
fluffy kind, it really can be done. NOT my type of flying, will leave
those to the tree topper flyers.

" wrote in
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On May 21, 4:51*pm, Buster Hymen wrote:

*Under VFR flight rules, there is a way you can legally
and safely fly 50' from a cloud (above, below, or laterally). You,
Anthony
,
obviously don't know how. *But you won't admit that you don't and,
instead, demonstrating that you don't know **** from shinola,
incompetentl
y
conclude it can't be done. *Wrong again, fjukktard. *Wrong again.

Let me give him a hint.

(B)usy airspace you can sidle up to a cloud up close and personal :-)

(G)round, while not as much space 'tween the cumulogranite and white
fluffy kind, it really can be done. NOT my type of flying, will leave
those to the tree topper flyers.



You can also ask your friends in ATC for a special favor. If you ask
nicely, they'll probably accomodate you.

Buster Hymen writes:

I'll say it again. Under VFR flight rules, there is a way you can legally
and safely fly 50' from a cloud (above, below, or laterally).

There is a way to do anything you want while flying (FAR 91.3). However, that
doesn't mean that you are usually in a position to legally do so.