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Old May 23rd 08, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 23, 7:52 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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So it's a process to cause the air to exert a force in a
direction perpendicular to the airflow. It fools the air, if you like,
which is why we call it an "air foil." A foil is a device to deceive.



Actually it's a synonym for blade.



Not quite. From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Foil:
1 obsolete : trample
2 a: to prevent from attaining an end : defeat always able to foil
her enemies b: to bring to naught : thwart (foiled the plot)
synonyms: see frustrate.

So my "deceive" is much less accurate than "frustrate."

Your definiton matches one of the the Cambridge Dictionary's
definitions:

foil (SWORD) gatiful
noun [C]
a thin light sword used in the sport of fencing


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Old May 23rd 08, 04:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in news:380a3b72-e9e1-4b9f-86a5-
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On May 23, 7:52 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote i
So it's a process to cause the air to exert a force in a
direction perpendicular to the airflow. It fools the air, if you like,
which is why we call it an "air foil." A foil is a device to deceive.



Actually it's a synonym for blade.



Not quite. From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Foil:
1 obsolete : trample
2 a: to prevent from attaining an end : defeat always able to foil
her enemies b: to bring to naught : thwart (foiled the plot)
synonyms: see frustrate.

So my "deceive" is much less accurate than "frustrate."

Your definiton matches one of the the Cambridge Dictionary's



That definition isn't relevant to this application, though.

definitions:

foil (SWORD) gatiful
noun [C]
a thin light sword used in the sport of fencing


More relevant, I suppose, but that definition is dervied from leaf or blade
as well. Foil as in thwart and foil as in blade have two completely
different origins, from waht I've been able to find...


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/foil

So I'd say arfoil was not used becasue of it's ability to frustrate air (
engineers just don't think like that, they seek harmony) but more because
of their resemblance to a leaf or blade.
Actually, the one in that link that stands out is the architectural one.


Bertie
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Old May 24th 08, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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So I'd say arfoil was not used becasue of it's ability to frustrate air (
engineers just don't think like that, they seek harmony) but more because
of their resemblance to a leaf or blade.
Actually, the one in that link that stands out is the architectural one.


Bertie


Posted by a forger.


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Old May 24th 08, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.fan.notb,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.religion.asatru,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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So I'd say arfoil was not used becasue of it's ability to frustrate
air ( engineers just don't think like that, they seek harmony) but
more because of their resemblance to a leaf or blade.
Actually, the one in that link that stands out is the architectural
one.


Bertie


Posted by a forger.



Aww, you got me.



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Old May 23rd 08, 08:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 24, 2:59*am, wrote:
On May 23, 7:52 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

wrote i
* * * So it's a process to cause the air to exert a force in a
direction perpendicular to the airflow. It fools the air, if you like,
which is why we call it an "air foil." A foil is a device to deceive.


Actually it's a synonym for blade.


Not quite. From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

* * Foil:
1 obsolete : trample
2 a: to prevent from attaining an end : defeat always able to foil
her enemies b: to bring to naught : thwart (foiled the plot)
synonyms: see frustrate.

* * * So my "deceive" is much less accurate than "frustrate."

* * * *Your definiton matches one of the the Cambridge Dictionary's
definitions:


If you look a bit further in the MW disctionary you will see both
blade and keaf. But the key is to use a proper dictionary like the
OED. Your definition of foil is a verb, not a noun and an aerofoil or
air foil is a noun.

Cheers
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Old May 24th 08, 03:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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More_Flaps wrote in
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On May 24, 2:59*am, wrote:
On May 23, 7:52 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

wrote i
* * * So it's a process to cause the air to exert a force in a
direction perpendicular to the airflow. It fools the air, if you
like,


which is why we call it an "air foil." A foil is a device to
deceive.


Actually it's a synonym for blade.


Not quite. From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

* * Foil:
1 obsolete : trample
2 a: to prevent from attaining an end : defeat always able to foil
her enemies b: to bring to naught : thwart (foiled the plot)
synonyms: see frustrate.

* * * So my "deceive" is much less accurate than "frustrate."

* * * *Your definiton matches one of the the Cambridge Dictionary'

s
definitions:


If you look a bit further in the MW disctionary you will see both
blade and keaf. But the key is to use a proper dictionary like the
OED. Your definition of foil is a verb, not a noun and an aerofoil or
air foil is a noun.

Cheers


Yeah, but the verb as it;s used has also become a noun. But I do believe
that the noun as it applies to a blade is probably the origin of it
being applied to wings and fins and other bits.




Bertie

 




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