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Old May 28th 08, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave[_5_]
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On May 27, 2:34*pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:15:57 -0700 (PDT), gliderguynj
wrote in
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I understand the person was trying to be helpful but.....


The FAA regulations and Advisory Circulars only mention broadcasting
position on CTAF. *There is no mention of communicating air-to-air. *

I know CTAF is being used for almost everything but that for which it
is intended. *But that doesn't make it okay. *

Personally, I limit my CTAF transmissions to announcing my position,
and nothing else.


I'd agree. Particularly annoying are these clods running around with
handheld radios - using them
to keep track of each other, coordinate lunch, etc - nothing
whatsoever to do with the safety of
flight. Sometimes it's better to to turn the radio off than listen to
the drivel.

Dave
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Old May 28th 08, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Personally, I limit my CTAF transmissions to announcing my position,
and nothing else.


I'd agree. Particularly annoying are these clods running around with
handheld radios - using them
to keep track of each other, coordinate lunch, etc - nothing
whatsoever to do with the safety of
flight. Sometimes it's better to to turn the radio off than listen to
the drivel.


One of the only upsides of GA flying declining is that there is far less of
that noise on the radio now. Personally, I'd like to suffer with the drivel
again.

I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."
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Old May 28th 08, 04:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Maynard
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On 2008-05-28, Jay Honeck wrote:
I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?
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Old May 29th 08, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the
field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?


I confess to making that announcement a couple of times, when I was a
newly-minted private pilot, as I passed over my home field. I think the
guys doing it are just so damned proud of their accomplishment that they
want their buds -- or anyone else listening -- to know that they're "up
there"...

It's really just silly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Jay Maynard" wrote in message
...
On 2008-05-28, Jay Honeck wrote:
I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the
field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 10 June)


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Old May 29th 08, 12:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:wuq%j.184699$yE1.158333@attbi_s21:

I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying
the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF.
What's the point?


I confess to making that announcement a couple of times, when I was a
newly-minted private pilot, as I passed over my home field. I think
the guys doing it are just so damned proud of their accomplishment
that they want their buds -- or anyone else listening -- to know that
they're "up there"...

It's really just silly.


Just like you.


Bertie
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Old May 29th 08, 01:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Shirl
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
I confess to making that announcement a couple of times, when I was a
newly-minted private pilot, as I passed over my home field. I think the
guys doing it are just so damned proud of their accomplishment that they
want their buds -- or anyone else listening -- to know that they're "up
there"...

It's really just silly.


I disagree that it's "just silly" or that it's only "newly minted
private pilots" bragging to buds that they're up there. Around here,
lots of people fly close to pattern altitude. If I'm in the pattern, I
appreciate knowing what they're staying or continuing on vs. having to
guess.
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Old May 29th 08, 03:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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I disagree that it's "just silly" or that it's only "newly minted
private pilots" bragging to buds that they're up there. Around here,
lots of people fly close to pattern altitude. If I'm in the pattern, I
appreciate knowing what they're staying or continuing on vs. having to
guess.


The example I used was 4500 feet, which, around here, puts you almost 4000'
AGL -- way above pattern altitude.

If you're at, say, 2000 feet, a call to let people know that you're in the
neighborhood is probably a good idea.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old May 30th 08, 11:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 05:01:37 -0700, Shirl
wrote:

round here,
lots of people fly close to pattern altitude. If I'm in the pattern, I
appreciate knowing what they're staying or continuing on vs. having to
guess.


I agree. I use a handheld in a J-3 Cub, and ignition noise makes it
impractical for me to broadcast. So the more talk there is, the safer
I feel.

4500 feet is a bit of a stretch, however. The only time I ever flew at
4500 feet was when I was surfing through the White Mountains.

But I really like to know if somebody is flying around my airport at
2000 or even 2500 feet.


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Old May 30th 08, 12:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:48:09 -0400, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT
net wrote in :

I use a handheld in a J-3 Cub, and ignition noise makes it
impractical for me to broadcast.


I wasn't aware that ignition noise affected radio broadcast
transmissions. I'm familiar with radio RECEPTION being compromised by
the broad spectrum of electromagnetic waves resulting from an
electrical spark, but not radio transmission.
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Old May 30th 08, 02:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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But I really like to know if somebody is flying around my airport at
2000 or even 2500 feet.


Absolutely. When we're doing a sight-seeing ride at 2000' over the city,
(like we did yesterday), it's completely appropriate to announce your
position on CTAF.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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