CFI oral intel

Dudley Henriques wrote:

Just a few thoughts on this if I may.

In my opinion, thinking this way as a CFI is not the optimum way to go,
and might in fact prove a valuable missed opportunity to save a life
down the road.

With cross control stalls, you want to do more than simply demonstrate
(or prove if you wish) that an aircraft can be stalled in a cross
controlled condition. You want to leave a permanent impression on the
student about cross control stall and ALL it's ramifications.

This can be done safely in BOTH the slip and skid condition, and it
requires an instructor who is sharp in stall recovery which you should
be to begin with.

Of PARAMOUNT importance to the cross control demonstration is having the
student EXPERIENCE the DIFFERENCE between the two configurations as they
relate to recovery response from the wing drop. To do this, the
instructor should demonstrate BOTH stalls, emphasizing the aircraft
behavior in each configuration.
To shy away from the skid configuration because of an aversion to
extreme bank or spin, whether that be on the student's side or the
instructor's side of the equation in my opinion is wrong.

....[snipped for brevity]

Another one for the archives. Thanks, Dudley.

I got the information about the question second-hand (the candidate told
the chief instructor who told me) so I'm not sure exactly what the
examiner as getting at. Now I'm really curious. It probably boils down
to the difference between a cross-control stall behavior in a slip
versus a skid. The FSDO examiners out here really hammer CFI candidates
on aerodynamics, or so I'm told, and less on the FOI if the candidate
appears reasonably capable of teaching. Seems appropriate enough.

-c

gatt wrote:


Another one for the archives. Thanks, Dudley.

I got the information about the question second-hand (the candidate told
the chief instructor who told me) so I'm not sure exactly what the
examiner as getting at. Now I'm really curious. It probably boils down
to the difference between a cross-control stall behavior in a slip
versus a skid. The FSDO examiners out here really hammer CFI candidates
on aerodynamics, or so I'm told, and less on the FOI if the candidate
appears reasonably capable of teaching. Seems appropriate enough.

-c

You're welcome.

What they probably want is be assured that the CFI fully understands the
dangers involved with skidding turns, especially at low altitude.

To do it right, the CFI should use the necessity to impart this
information to discuss and teach cross controlled stall in ALL
configurations so that a BETTER understanding of the various
ramifications involved be more understood.
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Dudley Henriques

On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:28:41 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

gatt wrote:


Another one for the archives. Thanks, Dudley.

I got the information about the question second-hand (the candidate told
the chief instructor who told me) so I'm not sure exactly what the
examiner as getting at. Now I'm really curious. It probably boils down
to the difference between a cross-control stall behavior in a slip
versus a skid. The FSDO examiners out here really hammer CFI candidates
on aerodynamics, or so I'm told, and less on the FOI if the candidate
appears reasonably capable of teaching. Seems appropriate enough.

-c

You're welcome.

What they probably want is be assured that the CFI fully understands the
dangers involved with skidding turns, especially at low altitude.

To do it right, the CFI should use the necessity to impart this
information to discuss and teach cross controlled stall in ALL
configurations so that a BETTER understanding of the various
ramifications involved be more understood.

oh bull**** dudley. they ask oddball questions like these to sort out
the rote learners who have swatted up all the past paper answers but
dont actually know diddly squat, and like MX, have no actual
understanding of what they sprout.

you can work out the answers from first principles if you actually
understand the fundamentals.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth Pilot wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:28:41 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

gatt wrote:


Another one for the archives. Thanks, Dudley.

I got the information about the question second-hand (the candidate told
the chief instructor who told me) so I'm not sure exactly what the
examiner as getting at. Now I'm really curious. It probably boils down
to the difference between a cross-control stall behavior in a slip
versus a skid. The FSDO examiners out here really hammer CFI candidates
on aerodynamics, or so I'm told, and less on the FOI if the candidate
appears reasonably capable of teaching. Seems appropriate enough.

-c
You're welcome.

What they probably want is be assured that the CFI fully understands the
dangers involved with skidding turns, especially at low altitude.

To do it right, the CFI should use the necessity to impart this
information to discuss and teach cross controlled stall in ALL
configurations so that a BETTER understanding of the various
ramifications involved be more understood.

oh bull**** dudley. they ask oddball questions like these to sort out
the rote learners who have swatted up all the past paper answers but
dont actually know diddly squat, and like MX, have no actual
understanding of what they sprout.

you can work out the answers from first principles if you actually
understand the fundamentals.

Stealth Pilot
Right. I'll change my approach to flight instruction immediately :-)

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Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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you can work out the answers from first principles if you actually
understand the fundamentals.

There's your problem......

Maxwell wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...

you can work out the answers from first principles if you actually
understand the fundamentals.

There's your problem......


Please check your quotes more carefully. I didn't write this.

--
Dudley Henriques