Bothering a Pilot on Final

Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On May 30, 8:45 am, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
I've never heard excessive chatter
Now that it's coming on to summer, I find that it's a rare
flight--especially on a fine Friday, Saturday, or Sunday--when I don't
hear excessive chatter. Today it was a long-drawn-out conversation at
Spencer airport in Massachusetts. Somebody was heading south. They
discussed the destination, and in what plane. Then a volley of "Have a
good day" "Yeah you too" and all that sh*t. It seemed to go on for
five minutes, but I suppose it was only two or three.

Is there provision for mis-use of communications?
I read there was, but I don't recall it being applied.
If I was a controller, it would drive me batty hearing
that drivel constipate the control frequency.

I don't believe anyone here is talking about such communication on a
frequency in use by ATC. CTAF frequencies are what is being discussed.

"Gig 601Xl Builder" wrote in message
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Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On May 30, 8:45 am, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
I've never heard excessive chatter
Now that it's coming on to summer, I find that it's a rare
flight--especially on a fine Friday, Saturday, or Sunday--when I don't
hear excessive chatter. Today it was a long-drawn-out conversation at
Spencer airport in Massachusetts. Somebody was heading south. They
discussed the destination, and in what plane. Then a volley of "Have a
good day" "Yeah you too" and all that sh*t. It seemed to go on for
five minutes, but I suppose it was only two or three.

Is there provision for mis-use of communications?
I read there was, but I don't recall it being applied.
If I was a controller, it would drive me batty hearing
that drivel constipate the control frequency.

I don't believe anyone here is talking about such communication on a
frequency in use by ATC. CTAF frequencies are what is being discussed.

Spencer uses 123.0. Tanner-Hiller is the only airport within 25 miles of
Spencer that uses 123.0, but they have very little traffic.

My question is: Can a plane transmitting from twenty five miles away
interfere with local communications?

When I'm in the pattern and hear traffic at remote airports, I usually
simply key the mike and make my position report. My assumption is that I
won't be stepping on a distant transmission, and anyone in my area will hear
me.

Steve Foley wrote:
"Gig 601Xl Builder" wrote in message
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Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On May 30, 8:45 am, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

wrote:
I've never heard excessive chatter
Now that it's coming on to summer, I find that it's a rare
flight--especially on a fine Friday, Saturday, or Sunday--when I don't
hear excessive chatter. Today it was a long-drawn-out conversation at
Spencer airport in Massachusetts. Somebody was heading south. They
discussed the destination, and in what plane. Then a volley of "Have a
good day" "Yeah you too" and all that sh*t. It seemed to go on for
five minutes, but I suppose it was only two or three.

Is there provision for mis-use of communications?
I read there was, but I don't recall it being applied.
If I was a controller, it would drive me batty hearing
that drivel constipate the control frequency.

I don't believe anyone here is talking about such communication on a
frequency in use by ATC. CTAF frequencies are what is being discussed.

Spencer uses 123.0. Tanner-Hiller is the only airport within 25 miles of
Spencer that uses 123.0, but they have very little traffic.

My question is: Can a plane transmitting from twenty five miles away
interfere with local communications?

When I'm in the pattern and hear traffic at remote airports, I usually
simply key the mike and make my position report. My assumption is that I
won't be stepping on a distant transmission, and anyone in my area will hear
me.

Like a lot of things, it depends.

I've had pilots in the pattern at another airport about 40 miles away
complain that I stepped on their transmission.

The transmission from the local should over power the remote to the
other locals, but there is no guarantee that will happen.

And since airplanes use AM, it is quite possible that the remotes
will hear a squeel with both transmitting at the same time.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Fri, 30 May 2008 18:27:54 GMT, "Steve Foley"
wrote:

Spencer uses 123.0. Tanner-Hiller is the only airport within 25 miles of
Spencer that uses 123.0, but they have very little traffic.

I was just past Plum Island (123.0) and heading south. At 2500 feet I
can hear four states (though to be sure, the radius doesn't have to be
very large to allow that: New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont,
Massachusetts).


My question is: Can a plane transmitting from twenty five miles away
interfere with local communications?

Oh, I think so. I often key to transmit and send out this awful
squeal, which I assume means someone else (who I can't hear with the
rubber ducky antenna) is transmitting at the same time.

(I don't think you can hear me, though! I have tried it, inbound to
Hampton, at 10 miles, 5 miles, 2 miles ... it's not until I'm almost
overhead that I can raise George.)

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
new from HarperCollins www.FlyingTigersBook.com

On May 31, 6:13 pm, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 18:27:54 GMT, "Steve Foley"

wrote:
Spencer uses 123.0. Tanner-Hiller is the only airport within 25 miles of
Spencer that uses 123.0, but they have very little traffic.

I was just past Plum Island (123.0) and heading south. At 2500 feet I
can hear four states (though to be sure, the radius doesn't have to be
very large to allow that: New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont,
Massachusetts).



My question is: Can a plane transmitting from twenty five miles away
interfere with local communications?

Oh, I think so. I often key to transmit and send out this awful
squeal, which I assume means someone else (who I can't hear with the
rubber ducky antenna) is transmitting at the same time.

(I don't think you can hear me, though! I have tried it, inbound to
Hampton, at 10 miles, 5 miles, 2 miles ... it's not until I'm almost
overhead that I can raise George.)

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
new from HarperCollinswww.FlyingTigersBook.com

While flying over southern Long Island (HWV) at pattern altitude, it
is common to hear communications from Sky Acres NY and Lincoln Park NJ
(both 60-70 nm away), as well as from a few other airports, on the
122.8 CTAF. Some signals are strong; others are not.

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


While flying over southern Long Island (HWV) at pattern altitude, it
is common to hear communications from Sky Acres NY and Lincoln Park NJ
(both 60-70 nm away), as well as from a few other airports, on the
122.8 CTAF. Some signals are strong; others are not.


I've heard those airports over Provincetown, MA!

I can also hear Montgomery, NY over Chester, CT.

B A R R Y wrote in
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


While flying over southern Long Island (HWV) at pattern altitude, it
is common to hear communications from Sky Acres NY and Lincoln Park NJ
(both 60-70 nm away), as well as from a few other airports, on the
122.8 CTAF. Some signals are strong; others are not.


I've heard those airports over Provincetown, MA!

I can also hear Montgomery, NY over Chester, CT.


In soe conditions you'll be able to hear furhter than that! I've heard
VHF transmissions well over 1,000 miles away even at low levels.

Bertie