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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 19:43:04 GMT, Ed Rasimus wrote: Been there, done that, in front of a MiG-17 who WAS firing from about 500 feet behind me. In an F-105D, at the western end of Phantom Ridge where it spills out into the Red River Delta, starting the maneuver at about 800 feet AGL. Worked as advertized, but wouldn't like to have been there more than once in a lifetime! Wasted way too many heartbeats. It is my understanding that the thud was the fastest plane in the world at low altitude, while the 104 was faster at high altitude. Nice if you plan to run away, although there is never enough fuel to do the supersonic bit for long. In the midst of my unpacking, I've dredged up a paper copy of: AIR COMBAT TACTICS EVALUATION F-100, F-104, F-105, F-4C VS MIG-15/17 TYPE AC(F-86H), Authored by the USAF Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, May 1965. Basically, lacking a sufficient number of MiG-17s at the time, the USAF used ANG F-86Hs as MiG-equivalents, and turned them loose against TAC F-100s, F-104s, F-105s, and F-4Cs to find the best tactics to use when defensive (F-86s bouncing), and offensive. In all cases, the best tactic against a gun attack by the F-86 was to extend out, using AB and God's G, (0 G push - negating induced drag), breaking if necessary to spoil a gun run, and to consider reattacking when supersonic. Even at Mach 0.9 (Call it 600 Kts) it takes enough time for any of these jets to pull out of gun range in level flight for the MiG to run out of bullets. The speed was there, but acceleration, impressive as it was, wasn't enough to get you faster fast enough. -- Pete Stickney Any plan where you lose your hat is a bad plan |
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