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PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES



 
 
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Old June 19th 08, 02:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Maynard
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

On 2008-06-19, Dylan Smith wrote:
But suppose you exploit every single oil reserve, the oil will *still*
be traded on the global market (because oil companies quite naturally
want to maximise profits). So tear up all environmental regulations,
exploit all the oil - and oil prices will hardly move, since it'll still
all go on the global market and global conditions won't have changed.
Gasoline will still ultimately hit $10/gallon if that's what it's going
to do.


You're ignoring the most basic of all market forces: supply and demand.
Supply goes up, prices go down, no matter where things are bought or sold.
It's that simple.
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Old June 19th 08, 02:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Gasoline will still ultimately hit $10/gallon if that's what it's going
to do.


You're ignoring the most basic of all market forces: supply and demand.
Supply goes up, prices go down, no matter where things are bought or sold.
It's that simple.


Bingo.
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Old June 19th 08, 03:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Frank Stutzman[_2_]
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Jay Maynard wrote:

You're ignoring the most basic of all market forces: supply and demand.
Supply goes up, prices go down, no matter where things are bought or sold.
It's that simple.


All true. However if demand goes up and supply doesn't keep pace, prices
will go up.

China and India are markets for oil that really didn't matter all that much
10 years go. Now they are using a small but significant percentage of
world production. And at the moment it doesn't look that percentage is going
to get any smaller.

Also what the supply and demand thing igores is the devaluation of currency.
The dollar is weaker than its been in decades. Unfortunately, I'm not
goog enough of economist to really expound on how that effects the cost
of oil.

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Old June 19th 08, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:10:07 +0000 (UTC), Frank Stutzman
wrote in
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China and India are markets for oil that really didn't matter all that much
10 years go. Now they are using a small but significant percentage of
world production. And at the moment it doesn't look that percentage is going
to get any smaller.


Below is a quote from comedian Bill Maher's HBO TV series Real Time
that aired March, 31, 2006:

So on this day, the 17th anniversary of the Exxon Valdez oil
spill, let us pause to consider how close we are to making
ourselves fossils from the fossil fuels we extract. In the next
twenty years, almost a billion Chinese people will be trading in
their bicycles for the automobile. Folks, we either get our ****
together on this quickly, or we're going to have to go to plan
'B': inventing a car that runs on Chinese people.
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Old June 19th 08, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
kontiki[_2_]
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASINGTHEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

Larry Dighera wrote:

Below is a quote from comedian Bill Maher's HBO TV series Real Time
that aired March, 31, 2006:

So on this day, the 17th anniversary of the Exxon Valdez oil
spill, let us pause to consider how close we are to making
ourselves fossils from the fossil fuels we extract. In the next
twenty years, almost a billion Chinese people will be trading in
their bicycles for the automobile. Folks, we either get our ****
together on this quickly, or we're going to have to go to plan
'B': inventing a car that runs on Chinese people.


All you ever do is paste quotes from other sources... are even capable
of any original or creative thoughts of you own?
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Old June 19th 08, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

kontiki wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote:

Below is a quote from comedian Bill Maher's HBO TV series Real Time
that aired March, 31, 2006:

So on this day, the 17th anniversary of the Exxon Valdez oil
spill, let us pause to consider how close we are to making
ourselves fossils from the fossil fuels we extract. In the next
twenty years, almost a billion Chinese people will be trading in
their bicycles for the automobile. Folks, we either get our ****
together on this quickly, or we're going to have to go to plan
'B': inventing a car that runs on Chinese people.


All you ever do is paste quotes from other sources... are even capable
of any original or creative thoughts of you own?


Speaking of gratuitous insults, just how old are you anyway?
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Old June 20th 08, 02:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:32:06 -0400, kontiki
wrote in :

Larry Dighera wrote:

Below is a quote from comedian Bill Maher's HBO TV series Real Time
that aired March, 31, 2006:

So on this day, the 17th anniversary of the Exxon Valdez oil
spill, let us pause to consider how close we are to making
ourselves fossils from the fossil fuels we extract. In the next
twenty years, almost a billion Chinese people will be trading in
their bicycles for the automobile. Folks, we either get our ****
together on this quickly, or we're going to have to go to plan
'B': inventing a car that runs on Chinese people.


All you ever do is paste quotes from other sources...


The sources whose content I cite generally have a reputation for
presenting a balanced view, and I use them to bolster my arguments (or
to quantify yours in this case) in discussion. Personal opinions are
cheap, but researched and verified information is powerful. However,
I wouldn't expect someone with limited vision and the cognitive
capacity of a Neanderthal to grasp the concept of credibility. :-)

are even capable of any original or creative thoughts of you own?


Occasionally, when the situation warrants it. Your example of
creative grammar above certainly is inspiring. :-)

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Old June 20th 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
kontiki[_2_]
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASINGTHEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

Larry Dighera wrote:


Occasionally, when the situation warrants it. Your example of
creative grammar above certainly is inspiring. :-)


Well I admit to being a rapid typist and my fingers often don't keep
up with my thoughts and I don't take the time to go back and correct
minor typos. I realize that it provides someone a means to divert the
focus from criticism of their statements to my typing.
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Old June 20th 08, 10:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

"However,
I wouldn't expect someone with limited vision and the cognitive
capacity of a Neanderthal to grasp the concept of credibility. :-)"

Larry, I thought you said you never resorted to personal attacks, or is it
just due to the fact that he disagrees with your limited and narrow point of
view?


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Old June 22nd 08, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default PHIL BOYER: 40% OF AOPA MEMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASING THEIR FLYING DUE TO FUEL PRICES

Larry Dighera wrote:

The sources whose content I cite generally have a reputation for
presenting a balanced view, and I use them to bolster my arguments (or
to quantify yours in this case) in discussion.


You often copy and paste without understanding the material or even reading
it. Sometimes you've posted material which proved your position to be
incorrect.


 




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