Future of Electronics In Aviation

Le Chaud Lapin wrote:

If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.

-Le Chaud Lapin-


Is affordable one of the criteria?

On Jun 23, 11:44*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Is affordable one of the criteria?

Yes, which is why taking a common LSA and adding a computer and a few
extra mechanical controls to it is almost guanteed not to work, even
if it just so happened to satisfy a few of the other criteria.

A systemic approach is needed, one that starts with assumption that
there is a limit on cost that even lower than $80,000 LSA.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:44?am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Is affordable one of the criteria?

Yes, which is why taking a common LSA and adding a computer and a few
extra mechanical controls to it is almost guanteed not to work, even
if it just so happened to satisfy a few of the other criteria.

A systemic approach is needed, one that starts with assumption that
there is a limit on cost that even lower than $80,000 LSA.

Most people don't start projects with unrealistic, naive assumptions.

Not ones that make money anyway.

--
Jim Pennino

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On Jun 23, 1:45*pm, wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin wrote:

On Jun 23, 11:44?am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Is affordable one of the criteria?
Yes, which is why taking a common LSA and adding a computer and a few
extra mechanical controls to it is almost guanteed not to work, even
if it just so happened to satisfy a few of the other criteria.
A systemic approach is needed, one that starts with assumption that
there is a limit on cost that even lower than $80,000 LSA.

Most people don't start projects with unrealistic, naive assumptions.

Some of the greatest changes in technology were driven people who did
just that.

Not ones that make money anyway.

Many of them turn out to be worth quite a bit.

Also, "managed innovation" is quite expensive.

The most efficient advancements in technologies have historically been
achieved not by entire organizations, but a highly-focused
individuals.

The Internet started that way. At the time, many said that the notion
of packet-based communication vs circuit-based was stupid/inefficient/
risky, etc.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
On Jun 23, 1:45?pm, wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin wrote:

On Jun 23, 11:44?am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Is affordable one of the criteria?
Yes, which is why taking a common LSA and adding a computer and a few
extra mechanical controls to it is almost guanteed not to work, even
if it just so happened to satisfy a few of the other criteria.
A systemic approach is needed, one that starts with assumption that
there is a limit on cost that even lower than $80,000 LSA.

Most people don't start projects with unrealistic, naive assumptions.

Some of the greatest changes in technology were driven people who did
just that.

Name some from the last 50 years.

Just about all the easy stuff that could be discovered in a garage
was discovered over a hundred years ago.

Not ones that make money anyway.

Many of them turn out to be worth quite a bit.

Name some from the last 50 years.

Just about all the easy stuff that could be discovered in a garage
was discovered over a hundred years ago.

Also, "managed innovation" is quite expensive.

The most efficient advancements in technologies have historically been
achieved not by entire organizations, but a highly-focused
individuals.

Name some from the last 50 years.

Just about all the easy stuff that could be discovered in a garage
was discovered over a hundred years ago.

The Internet started that way. At the time, many said that the notion
of packet-based communication vs circuit-based was stupid/inefficient/
risky, etc.

The Internet started as a government/university project and involved
a LOT of rather large organizations and a HUGE number of people.

Let's add history to the list of things you know nothing about.


--
Jim Pennino

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Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:44 am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.
-Le Chaud Lapin-
Is affordable one of the criteria?

Yes, which is why taking a common LSA and adding a computer and a few
extra mechanical controls to it is almost guanteed not to work, even
if it just so happened to satisfy a few of the other criteria.

A systemic approach is needed, one that starts with assumption that
there is a limit on cost that even lower than $80,000 LSA.

-Le Chaud Lapin-


The cost of a LSA or any modern aircraft isn't that high because of the
things that go in to building it. A car that would cost $20,000 at
Honest Jim's Auto Sales would cost 10 times that if built in the numbers
of all the LSA and single engine GA aircraft combined.

In rec.aviation.piloting Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:44 am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
If someone were to make a PAV that satisfied the criteria outlined by
NASA/CAFE/PAV, there would be tremenous consumer response.
-Le Chaud Lapin-
Is affordable one of the criteria?

Yes, which is why taking a common LSA and adding a computer and a few
extra mechanical controls to it is almost guanteed not to work, even
if it just so happened to satisfy a few of the other criteria.

A systemic approach is needed, one that starts with assumption that
there is a limit on cost that even lower than $80,000 LSA.

-Le Chaud Lapin-


The cost of a LSA or any modern aircraft isn't that high because of the
things that go in to building it. A car that would cost $20,000 at
Honest Jim's Auto Sales would cost 10 times that if built in the numbers
of all the LSA and single engine GA aircraft combined.

Yep, and a good example is the Morgan.

If mass produced it would probably go for $10k to $20k. The current
hand built model (like airplanes are built) goes for about $80k.

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Jim Pennino

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