Bush Threatens Veto Of Any Bills That Don't Include User Fees For Everyone Talking To ATC!

On Jun 30, 1:08*pm, gatt wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:16 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

Are you intimating that Obama's ATC user fee view is aligned with
Bush's?

I think we all just assume that taxes are going to be crippling under
Obama. He's already started warning us by saying he's increasing the
social security tax. That's going to hit many of us.

Won't hit me. *By the time I'm eligible for the Socialist Security I've
been paying into all my life, it'll be gone.

Me too but the point is that Obama has pre-announced that the payroll
tax we are paying will increase.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 1:08 pm, gatt wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:16 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

Are you intimating that Obama's ATC user fee view is aligned with
Bush's?

I think we all just assume that taxes are going to be crippling under
Obama. He's already started warning us by saying he's increasing the
social security tax. That's going to hit many of us.

Won't hit me. By the time I'm eligible for the Socialist Security I've
been paying into all my life, it'll be gone.

Me too but the point is that Obama has pre-announced that the payroll
tax we are paying will increase.

For a self-described economic expert, you sure have some weak points.

First, Obama said no such thing. Next, SS can't possibly be "gone" because
you will always have people paying into the system. The only thing that has
a potential to be "gone" is the SS trust fund, which was a bad idea given to
us by Reagan in the first place. Even if the SS trust fund is "gone", FICA
will still cover at least 75% of SS payouts, even if all the doom-and-gloom
predictions about SS come true decades from now.

On Jun 30, 1:49*pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...





On Jun 30, 1:08 pm, gatt wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:16 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

Are you intimating that Obama's ATC user fee view is aligned with
Bush's?

I think we all just assume that taxes are going to be crippling under
Obama. He's already started warning us by saying he's increasing the
social security tax. That's going to hit many of us.

Won't hit me. By the time I'm eligible for the Socialist Security I've
been paying into all my life, it'll be gone.

Me too but the point is that Obama has pre-announced that the payroll
tax we are paying will increase.

For a self-described economic expert, you sure have some weak points.

First, Obama said no such thing. *

I guess you don't get out much...

"Obama to push for higher Social Security tax"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21739271/

So expect your paycheck to get smaller.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 1:49 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Jun 30, 1:08 pm, gatt wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:16 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

Are you intimating that Obama's ATC user fee view is aligned with
Bush's?

I think we all just assume that taxes are going to be crippling
under
Obama. He's already started warning us by saying he's increasing
the
social security tax. That's going to hit many of us.

Won't hit me. By the time I'm eligible for the Socialist Security
I've
been paying into all my life, it'll be gone.

Me too but the point is that Obama has pre-announced that the payroll
tax we are paying will increase.

For a self-described economic expert, you sure have some weak points.

First, Obama said no such thing.

I guess you don't get out much...

"Obama to push for higher Social Security tax"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21739271/

So expect your paycheck to get smaller.

I guess your reading comprehension skills aren't all that great. Obama
proposes raising the SS maximum income level, which is currently $102,000
which affects less than 5% of the population. The payroll tax rate would
remain the same. And you claim to be an economic expert?

I also see you didn't even address the rest of your ignorance and snipped it
out. Good show.

On Jun 30, 2:25*pm, "Mike" wrote:

I guess your reading comprehension skills aren't all that great. *Obama
proposes raising the SS maximum income level, which is currently $102,000
which affects less than 5% of the population. *The payroll tax rate would
remain the same. *And you claim to be an economic expert?


I'm not sure what hair your trying to split. The point is that more SS
tax will come out of my paycheck and I suspect the majority of
airplane owners.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Jun 30, 2:25*pm, "Mike" wrote:

I guess your reading comprehension skills aren't all that great.
*Obama proposes raising the SS maximum income level, which is
currently $102,000 which affects less than 5% of the population. *The
payroll tax rate woul
d
remain the same. *And you claim to be an economic expert?


I'm not sure what hair your trying to split. The point is that more SS
tax will come out of my paycheck and I suspect the majority of
airplane owners.



What do you suspect them of?


Bertie

Mike wrote:

I guess your reading comprehension skills aren't all that great. Obama
proposes raising the SS maximum income level, which is
currently $102,000 which affects less than 5% of the population. The
payroll tax rate would remain the same. And you claim to be an
economic expert?

Seems to me if a larger income level is subject to the same tax rate a
higher net tax is the result. Do you disagree?

On Jun 30, 2:37*pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
Mike wrote:

I guess your reading comprehension skills aren't all that great. Obama
proposes raising the SS maximum income level, which is
currently $102,000 which affects less than 5% of the population. *The
payroll tax rate would remain the same. *And you claim to be an
economic expert?

Seems to me if a larger income level is subject to the same tax rate a
higher net tax is the result. *Do you disagree?

Yea, I'm waiting to hear how he explains to me that more money coming
out of my check and going into the SS system is not a tax increase.
Perhaps he should be running for office.

-Robert

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
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Yea, I'm waiting to hear how he explains to me that more money coming
out of my check and going into the SS system is not a tax increase.

What leads you to believe that I believe it is not a tax increase?

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 2:37 pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
Mike wrote:

I guess your reading comprehension skills aren't all that great. Obama
proposes raising the SS maximum income level, which is
currently $102,000 which affects less than 5% of the population. The
payroll tax rate would remain the same. And you claim to be an
economic expert?

Seems to me if a larger income level is subject to the same tax rate a
higher net tax is the result. Do you disagree?

Yea, I'm waiting to hear how he explains to me that more money coming
out of my check and going into the SS system is not a tax increase.
Perhaps he should be running for office.

I'm still waiting for you to explain your statement, Mr. economic expert.
Here it is again:

"Me too but the point is that Obama has pre-announced that the payroll
tax we are paying will increase."

So first you say "we" and now you say "my". So which is it?

Who is this "we" you speak of?

Voices inside your head?

Mouse in your pocket?

Or perhaps you meant the small segment of the population who would be
affected? If that's the case, why didn't you specify it as such? Deception
by ommission?

Of course, that assumes you actually knew what the proposal actually was to
begin with, which is probably a very poor assumption.