F-16 Encounters in MOA

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in news:30bb7f75-97ae-47e2-a6c4-
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Its simple really. Rogue F-16 pilot decided to play with some civilian
pilots. F-16 pilot was reported to have been punished for breaking
both FAA and military rules. Military says its taken steps to ensure
it doesn't happen again. I assume F-16 pilots now know where the xmit
button is in their plane and can use that to ask pilots if they'd like
to smell Jet-A exhaust rather than just jump them. BTW: I know a lot
of East coast pilots will ask why anyone would want to fly in a hot
MOA. If you haven't flown in the SW you don't know. If 90% of the East
coast was MOA and restricted airspace you'd feel different.

-Robert


Do all F-16's now have VHF radios? At a Wings safety seminar sevaral
years ago I was told that most only have UHF and thus can't directly
communicate with GA aircraft.

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Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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Marty Shapiro writes:

Do all F-16's now have VHF radios? At a Wings safety seminar sevaral
years ago I was told that most only have UHF and thus can't directly
communicate with GA aircraft.

If they cannot communicate with GA aircraft, that's all the more reason not to
harass GA aircraft.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Marty Shapiro writes:

Do all F-16's now have VHF radios? At a Wings safety seminar sevaral
years ago I was told that most only have UHF and thus can't directly
communicate with GA aircraft.

If they cannot communicate with GA aircraft, that's all the more
reason not to harass GA aircraft.


Your a ****ing moron

Buster Hymen wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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Marty Shapiro writes:

Do all F-16's now have VHF radios? At a Wings safety seminar sevaral
years ago I was told that most only have UHF and thus can't directly
communicate with GA aircraft.
If they cannot communicate with GA aircraft, that's all the more
reason not to harass GA aircraft.


Your a ****ing moron


While I agree that Anthony is a ****ing moron. He is right in this case.

On Jul 11, 3:41*pm, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

Do all F-16's now have VHF radios? *At a Wings safety seminar sevaral
years ago I was told that most only have UHF and thus can't directly
communicate with GA aircraft.

ATC has freq for both VHF and UHF. The civilian pilots were in contact
with ATC, the F-16 pilot elected to not be in contact with ATC.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary writes:

ATC has freq for both VHF and UHF. The civilian pilots were in contact
with ATC, the F-16 pilot elected to not be in contact with ATC.

Maybe the Air Force should elect to retire that pilot.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Robert M. Gary writes:

ATC has freq for both VHF and UHF. The civilian pilots were in contact
with ATC, the F-16 pilot elected to not be in contact with ATC.

Maybe the Air Force should elect to retire that pilot.


You are a fukcing moron. Maybe the Air Force should use you for bombing
practice. That will both put you out of your misery and significantly
increse the total IQ of the human race.

Let's all remember that Anthony doesn't fly and never has. He has never
encountered the situation described, and certainly knows nothing about
flying procedures, let alone the military and their responsibilities.

If he were as smart as he thinks he is, he would be able to find a regular
job.

On Jul 12, 7:31*am, "Viperdoc" wrote:
Let's all remember that Anthony doesn't fly and never has. He has never
encountered the situation described, and certainly knows nothing about
flying procedures, let alone the military and their responsibilities.

If he were as smart as he thinks he is, he would be able to find a regular
job.

None the less, formation flying with someone not skilled in the
discipline is not a good idea. If such procedures in joint use
airspace are sanctioned by higher authorities in the air force their
judgment has to be questioned. If the USAF pilot did this on his own
his judgment is in question, isn't it?

Simply because the jet jock has the skills to do something like that
safely does NOT mean he has the right to do it.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:42:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 12, 7:31*am, "Viperdoc" wrote:
Let's all remember that Anthony doesn't fly and never has. He has never
encountered the situation described, and certainly knows nothing about
flying procedures, let alone the military and their responsibilities.

If he were as smart as he thinks he is, he would be able to find a regular
job.

None the less, formation flying with someone not skilled in the
discipline is not a good idea. If such procedures in joint use
airspace are sanctioned by higher authorities in the air force their
judgment has to be questioned. If the USAF pilot did this on his own
his judgment is in question, isn't it?

Simply because the jet jock has the skills to do something like that
safely does NOT mean he has the right to do it.

yeah but where is your sense of humour.

I recall the story of the mil formation popping out in a cloud break
to see a civil bonanza up ahead. the story is that they rolled
inverted and went past the guy, vanishing into the wall of cloud
ahead. (whereupon they rolled back upright)
in the moments following there was a string of expletives over the
radio from the bonanza pilot as, thinking he was disoriented, he
rolled inverted only to see all the floor dust rise past him to the
windscreen above.

if that is more than an urban legend there is opportunity for truely
funny flypasts :-)

Stealth Pilot