F-16 Encounters in MOA

On Jul 12, 10:12*am, "Viperdoc" wrote:
They did not fly formation with the civilian pilot- it is not the normal
intercept procedure, and the differences in airspeed make it difficult.

The usual intent is to get the other pilot's attention, while the wingman
provides support and maintains visual contact. The civilian pilot has an
equal responsibility to see and avoid, and probably should be even more
attentive in an active MOA.

I submit the difference in airspeed and detection equipment puts the
tin can at a substantial disadvantage. If it's as the thread suggests,
the jet jock was playing games he should not have been. Sometimes USAF
pilots display inappropriate airmanship: this seems to be such a case.
Even good guys make mistakes: excepte me.

The pilot may well have made a bad decision- however, it is highly unlikely
that they were flying in formation with the civilian plane. As far as I
know, both pilots have an equal responsibility for see and avoid.

Viperdoc wrote:

The pilot may well have made a bad decision- however, it is highly
unlikely that they were flying in formation with the civilian plane.
As far as I know, both pilots have an equal responsibility for see
and avoid.

Do you think the F-16 pilot met that responsibility?

Viperdoc wrote:
The pilot may well have made a bad decision- however, it is highly unlikely
that they were flying in formation with the civilian plane. As far as I
know, both pilots have an equal responsibility for see and avoid.




At first I thought this was all a case of a civilian pilot overreacting.
After listening to the audio and watching the radar video I've come to
the decsicion and has the USAF that the F-16 pilot screwed up.

To say a civilian pilot that is intercepted from the rear by a radar
carrying F-16 has the same see and avoid responsibility is absurd.
Though in this case the civilian did try to avoid (via TCAS) and F-16
wouldn't let it.