Good for two more years...

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?


Bertie

Like you really give a ****.


I'm a flight instructor.

You?

Bertie

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth Pilot wrote in
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:1jkfk.20622$%q.7899
:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...


Um, are you doing a flight chekc for the CFI of just the written?


Bertie

Like you really give a ****.


I'm a flight instructor.

You?

Bertie

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie


Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

"BT" wrote in news:Qmxfk.1549$_J5.1242
@newsfe02.iad:

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still
do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on
your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can
check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need
to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie


Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires
a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any
local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.


Vicey versey, you can operate in most parts of the world wiht a US
licence as long as two of the followong line up: Airplane, pilot, and
country.
So, you could fly a French reg airplane with your us licence and a
french validation but only inside the JAR zone. In some countries they
won't even require a validation ( which is effectively what the FAA
licence based on a foreign licence is) You can just go to an FBO and get
checked out and sent off. A few of my crew went out and rented a 172 in
France when we were laying over a few days and did more flying in it in
three days than we did on duty! IIRC they had to present themselves at
some authroty to get a bit of paper and then a quick checkout and off
they went.
what they could not do, however, was fly to say, North Africa with the
airplane. They would need to be in an airplane that matched their
licence. I believe the same would apply in the US. A visitor with a Euro
Jar Licence could not fly a Canadian reg'd airplane in the US, for
instance. With professional flying we get all sorts of validations and
such to cover this. Ferrying is generally no problem, however. I did one
oout of the UK many years ago in a G reg airplane and there was a
proviso on the ferry permit which restricted us from landing in the UK
with the airplane once we'd taken off from Coventry.


Bertie

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie


Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT


whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.


Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
wrote:

On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.


Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

that is interesting.
mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)

and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
you've written.

a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)
Stealth Pilot

On Jul 17, 10:50*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

that is interesting.
mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)


Ah so yours does not say "aircrew license" after all?

and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
*FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

Yep, OK


and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
you've written.


But that's the bit with the all important signature -right? Otherwise
you could be a steward serving me drinks...

a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)

Nah, just making sure you actually have a license -and the exercise is
good for you.

Cheers

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT


whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

BT

On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.


Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers