Good for two more years...

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:

hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie


Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT


whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.


Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
wrote:

On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.


Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

that is interesting.
mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)

and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
you've written.

a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)
Stealth Pilot

On Jul 17, 10:50*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

that is interesting.
mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)


Ah so yours does not say "aircrew license" after all?

and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
*FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

Yep, OK


and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
you've written.


But that's the bit with the all important signature -right? Otherwise
you could be a steward serving me drinks...

a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)

Nah, just making sure you actually have a license -and the exercise is
good for you.

Cheers

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:51:08 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
wrote:

On Jul 17, 10:50*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:23:54 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 17, 9:49*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:48 -0700, "BT" wrote:
hey bertie. since you're a flight instructor ....do the yanks still do
the short course for an FAA licence based on a foreign licence?
the sorta thing you used to be able to do at oshkosh.
or have idiots like maxie and the 9/11 thing killed it forever?

something I'd like to do when I get to the US again.

I dont think you need a course. You just get a US licence based on your
own national licence.I think there's some lead in time so they can check
you out or something, but I think there's no testing in it. You need to
give the district office near where you're going a coll a few months
beforehand, I think. They can tell you better'n me anyway.

Bertie

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

Mine says flight crew license on the outside and inside it says
Private Pilot License (Aeroplane)

that is interesting.
mine says FLIGHT CREW LICENCE (in caps on the outside)


Ah so yours does not say "aircrew license" after all?

and section 2 on page 1 says ....guess what.
*FLIGHT CREW LICENCE

Yep, OK


and you have to get all the way down to section XII for it to say what
you've written.


But that's the bit with the all important signature -right? Otherwise
you could be a steward serving me drinks...

a bit disingenious of you to make me go and find it :-)

Nah, just making sure you actually have a license -and the exercise is
good for you.

Cheers

Do people you get in flame wars with call you "****_flaps?"

That would be irritating. I bet you think those people are stupid.

Jade

Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT


whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

BT

On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.


Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps
wrote:

On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.


Pity, "License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.

our regulators seem to think that everything non commercial should
live within the RAA environment. they are wrong for this reason!

Stealth Pilot

On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK requires a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards District
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US certificate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by any local
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified aircraft I
could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and continue for a
tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.


Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
certifiable.

Cheers

More_Flaps wrote in
:

On Jul 18, 9:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), More_Flaps



wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:35*am, "BT" wrote:
Bertie is correct, bring over your UK Papers.. and if the UK
require
s a
medical, bring that too.
Take it all with your log books to the local Flight Standards
Distri
ct
Office (FSDO) by appointment only, and they will issue a US
certific
ate
based on your UK license. Then all you need is a BFR given by
any lo
cal
Instructor that says you are good to fly solo.

Scary isn't it.

BT

whats an UKpaper????
oh you mean my australian ICAO format pilot's licence?

as a piece of trivia do you realise that there actually isnt an
Australian Pilot's Licence as such.
it is called an aircrew licence down under.

I dont find it scarey. If I owned an australian certified
aircraft I could just fly it to america, pass customs etc, and
continue for a tour. no checking at all.
for me to fly a US registered aircraft I need an FAA issued
licence.

we have the same reciprocal arrangement in australia.

Stealth Pilot

Stealth.. the original OP was UK, I believe
We don't have licenses either.. we have Certificates.

Pity, *"License" has a certain je ne sais qois.

Cheers

this is a red herring but the licence vs certificate issue is quite
important in australia.

icao recognised things that mean you can fly overseas are called
"licences"
domestic approvals that can only be exercised within the country of
issue are called "certificates"

in australia General Aviation pilots have licences and ultralight
pilots have certificates.


Sounds fair enough to me. Some of those ultralights belong only to the
certifiable.


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Bertie