US "heroes" kill 9 children

On 11 Dec 2003 07:13:43 -0800, (Scott MacEachern)
wrote:


And I am aware of teh scale of European arms sales to Iraq over the
same period, thank 'ee. I was responding to one example of persistent
attempts to minimise America's involvement with Saddam Hussein's
regime over the same period.

In that case - based on the evidence presented - the only conclusion
is that the US did not provide any substantial military aid to Iraq.

What it boils down to is that the US wanted the Iran-Iraq war
stalemated - and worked both sides to ensure that this happened.

We weren't even that subtle about this - when asked about this war the
US Secretary of State said: "We hope they both lose."



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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:38:02 GMT, Colin Campbell
(remove underscore) wrote:

In that case - based on the evidence presented - the only conclusion
is that the US did not provide any substantial military aid to Iraq.

Well, we will have to disagree over that. I tend to regard 120+
helicopters and reconnaissance information as 'substantial military
aid'.

Scott

In article ,
Scott MacEachern wrote:

Well, we will have to disagree over that. I tend to regard 120+
helicopters and reconnaissance information as 'substantial military
aid'.

If $5 million in copters (over 15 years ago) is "substantial," then what
do you consider the billions in sales by Russia, along with the years
upon years of *actual* military aid and training?

"Overwhelming" should be in the phrase book somewhere...

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:57:28 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

If $5 million in copters (over 15 years ago) is "substantial," then what
do you consider the billions in sales by Russia, along with the years
upon years of *actual* military aid and training?

Very substantial indeed. But if the USA sold 120+ helicopters to
Saddam Hussein for _$5 million_ (that is, less than $50,000/apiece)
they were giving them to him! In fact, the figure I've seen for just
the sale of the 214s was $200 million... which makes a lot more sense.

Scott