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  #1  
Old July 22nd 08, 08:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bruce A. Frank
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Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.

Jay Maynard wrote:

On 2008-07-20, Bruce A. Frank wrote:
!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
html
Is this post making it through? Having some problems with the program I
use to access RAH./html


It's making it through, but as HTML. This is antisocial. Please turn off
HTML posting in your newsreader.
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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)


  #2  
Old July 22nd 08, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jay Maynard
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On 2008-07-22, Bruce A. Frank wrote:
Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.


It's not the bandwidth that's impolite. It's that not everyone reads Usenet
with a web browser. This is merely annoying when it's limited to text; it's
rude beyond belief when you include pictures and other, non-text items.

Here's what your message looks like in a pure text newsreader:

html
Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.
pJay Maynard wrote:
blockquote TYPE=CITEOn 2008-07-20, Bruce A. Frank
wrote:
br<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
br<html
br Is this post making it through? Having some problems with the program
I
br use to access RAH.</html
pIt's making it through, but as HTML. This is antisocial. Please turn
off
brHTML posting in your newsreader.
br--
brJay Maynard, K5ZC       &nbs p;           
a href="http://www.conmicro.com"http://www.conmicro.com/a
bra href="http://jmaynard.livejournal.com"http://jmaynard.livejournal.com/a     
a href="http://www.tronguy.net"http://www.tronguy.net/a
brFairmont, MN (FRM)       &nb sp;       &nbsp ;       
(Yes, that's me!)
brAMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)/blockquote
/html

--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
  #3  
Old July 23rd 08, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
stol
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On Jul 22, 4:32*pm, Jay Maynard
wrote:
On 2008-07-22, Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.


It's not the bandwidth that's impolite. It's that not everyone reads Usenet
with a web browser. This is merely annoying when it's limited to text; it's
rude beyond belief when you include pictures and other, non-text items.

Here's what your message looks like in a pure text newsreader:





html
Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.
pJay Maynard wrote:
blockquote TYPE=CITEOn 2008-07-20, Bruce A. Frank
wrote:
br<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
br<html
br Is this post making it through? Having some problems with the program
I
br use to access RAH.</html
pIt's making it through, but as HTML. This is antisocial. Please turn
off
brHTML posting in your newsreader.
br--
brJay Maynard, K5ZC       &nbs p;   &nbsp*;   &nbsp ;  
a href="http://www.conmicro.com"http://www.conmicro.com/a
bra href="http://jmaynard.livejournal.com"http://jmaynard.livejournal.com/a     
a href="http://www.tronguy.net"http://www.tronguy.net/a
brFairmont, MN (FRM)       &nb sp;   &nbs*p;   &nbs p;       
(Yes, that's me!)
brAMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)/blockquote
/html


--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC * * * * * * * * *http://www.conmicro.comhttp://jmaynard.livejournal.com* * *http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) * * * * * * * * * * * *(Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Geez... They can put a man on the moon but cannot standardize a
posting format.... Hmmm, maybe they didn't get to the moon afterall..
G
  #4  
Old July 23rd 08, 05:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ron Wanttaja
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:24:44 -0700 (PDT), stol wrote:

Geez... They can put a man on the moon but cannot standardize a
posting format....


No, they did: Plain text.

Even if user attaches a picture, most of the forwarding sites strip them away
from non-binary groups.

Ron Wanttaja
  #5  
Old July 23rd 08, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Steve Hix
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In article
,
stol wrote:

On Jul 22, 4:32*pm, Jay Maynard
wrote:
On 2008-07-22, Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the
Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.


It's not the bandwidth that's impolite. It's that not everyone reads Usenet
with a web browser. This is merely annoying when it's limited to text; it's
rude beyond belief when you include pictures and other, non-text items.

Here's what your message looks like in a pure text newsreader:





html
Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the
Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.
pJay Maynard wrote:
blockquote TYPE=CITEOn 2008-07-20, Bruce A. Frank

wrote:
br<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
br<html
br Is this post making it through? Having some problems with the
program
I
br use to access RAH.</html
pIt's making it through, but as HTML. This is antisocial. Please turn
off
brHTML posting in your newsreader.
br--
brJay Maynard,
K5ZC       &nb sp;   &nbsp
*;      
a href="http://www.conmicro.com"http://www.conmicro.com/a
bra
href="http://jmaynard.livejournal.com"http://jmaynard.livejournal.com/a&
nbsp;    
a href="http://www.tronguy.net"http://www.tronguy.net/a
brFairmont, MN
(FRM)       &n bsp;   &nbs
*p;       &nbs p;   
(Yes, that's me!)
brAMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)/blockquote
/html


--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC * * * * * * * *
*http://www.conmicro.comhttp://jmaynard.livejournal.com* *
*http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) * * * * * * * * * * * *(Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Geez... They can put a man on the moon but cannot standardize a
posting format.... Hmmm, maybe they didn't get to the moon afterall..
G


Sure they did. It's just that the standard is plain text, not HTML.
  #6  
Old July 23rd 08, 02:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Gig 601Xl Builder
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stol wrote:


Geez... They can put a man on the moon but cannot standardize a
posting format.... Hmmm, maybe they didn't get to the moon afterall..
G


Well they kind of did standardize a posting format for USENET. Plain Text.
  #7  
Old July 24th 08, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
stol
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Posts: 161
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On Jul 23, 7:11*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
stol wrote:

Geez... They can put a man on the moon but cannot standardize a
posting format.... Hmmm, maybe they didn't get to the moon afterall..
G


Well they kind of did standardize a posting format for USENET. Plain Text..




:)......


Ben
  #8  
Old July 25th 08, 07:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bruce A. Frank
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Posts: 36
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Truthfully Jay, it comes across to me as whether you leave the toilet
seat up or whether you leave the toilet seat down. All the changes that
can be made to my newsreader have been and I can apparently set mine up
to screen out html by detecting the codes...and this reader is at least
9 years old.

Jay Maynard wrote:

On 2008-07-22, Bruce A. Frank wrote:
Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.


It's not the bandwidth that's impolite. It's that not everyone reads Usenet
with a web browser. This is merely annoying when it's limited to text; it's
rude beyond belief when you include pictures and other, non-text items.

Here's what your message looks like in a pure text newsreader:

html
Wait till I post a picture! I see the net nannies are alive and vocal as
ever. Jay, I am using the news reader in Netscape 4.2. I am lucky it is
functioning at all. Please filter me out. I did not know that the Internet
Newsgroups were still arguing about the "politeness" of bandwidth.
pJay Maynard wrote:
blockquote TYPE=CITEOn 2008-07-20, Bruce A. Frank
wrote:
br<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
br<html
br Is this post making it through? Having some problems with the program
I
br use to access RAH.</html
pIt's making it through, but as HTML. This is antisocial. Please turn
off
brHTML posting in your newsreader.
br--
brJay Maynard, K5ZC       &nbs p;           
a href="http://www.conmicro.com"http://www.conmicro.com/a
bra href="http://jmaynard.livejournal.com"http://jmaynard.livejournal.com/a     
a href="http://www.tronguy.net"http://www.tronguy.net/a
brFairmont, MN (FRM)       &nb sp;       &nbsp ;       
(Yes, that's me!)
brAMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)/blockquote
/html

--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)

  #9  
Old July 25th 08, 12:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jay Maynard
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On 2008-07-25, Bruce A. Frank wrote:
Truthfully Jay, it comes across to me as whether you leave the toilet
seat up or whether you leave the toilet seat down. All the changes that
can be made to my newsreader have been and I can apparently set mine up
to screen out html by detecting the codes...and this reader is at least
9 years old.


It's not a matter of age or moderniy. It's a matter of courtesy to those who
read Usenet with non-HTML-capable readers. I do this deliberately, because
it allows me to read the groups from whatever computer I'm at and still
maintain my position within each group. It's also faster. Similarly, I read
email with a text-only reader from the same system, so I can do so from any
computer anywhere on the net. That renders me immune to email viruses.

I don't use an HTML-capable email or news reader for what turn out to be
very good reasons. It' not that I refuse to join the modern era at all. It's
that Usenet and email are text media, and using HTML in them is not the way
they were designed to be used. The only HTML email I get is from spammers,
and HTML email is quite likely to get dropped straight into the bit bucket.
Usenet is, if anything, even more text-only.

Please respect others' choices, and leave HTML turned off (as you have it
now).
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
  #10  
Old July 26th 08, 12:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Peter Dohm
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"Jay Maynard" wrote in message
...
On 2008-07-25, Bruce A. Frank wrote:
Truthfully Jay, it comes across to me as whether you leave the toilet
seat up or whether you leave the toilet seat down. All the changes that
can be made to my newsreader have been and I can apparently set mine up
to screen out html by detecting the codes...and this reader is at least
9 years old.


It's not a matter of age or moderniy. It's a matter of courtesy to those
who
read Usenet with non-HTML-capable readers. I do this deliberately, because
it allows me to read the groups from whatever computer I'm at and still
maintain my position within each group. It's also faster. Similarly, I
read
email with a text-only reader from the same system, so I can do so from
any
computer anywhere on the net. That renders me immune to email viruses.

I don't use an HTML-capable email or news reader for what turn out to be
very good reasons. It' not that I refuse to join the modern era at all.
It's
that Usenet and email are text media, and using HTML in them is not the
way
they were designed to be used. The only HTML email I get is from spammers,
and HTML email is quite likely to get dropped straight into the bit
bucket.
Usenet is, if anything, even more text-only.

Please respect others' choices, and leave HTML turned off (as you have it
now).
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)


All very well said!

Peter



 




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