High time airframe question

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:33:38 GMT, "Mike" wrote:


From reading the description on the low time plane, I didn't get the
impression it was a 0 time engine. A 0 time engine to me means a factory
new engine or 0 TTSN. In this case the engine could be 0 TTSN, or it
could
be 0 TSMOH, or it could be 0 TSTOH. I tend to suspect the latter, because
it isn't specified. The reason I think the plane has been sitting in a
field is because just about everything that wears out from just sitting
has
been recently replaced or overhauled.

Isn't a factory reman also 0 time w/ new logbooks?

It can be. There's also such thing a factory overhaul, which is not a 0
time engine. Most people just do a major overhaul or a top overhaul, which
can be done by someone who is powerplant certified.

My engine was factory new when last replaced. It isn't a factory overhaul
or a factory rebuilt one. It cost $30K (not including installation) and
that was some time back. I could have had the old one overhauled for
probably as cheap as $12K at the time.

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:48:48 GMT, "Mike" wrote:

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:33:38 GMT, "Mike" wrote:


From reading the description on the low time plane, I didn't get the
impression it was a 0 time engine. A 0 time engine to me means a factory
new engine or 0 TTSN. In this case the engine could be 0 TTSN, or it
could
be 0 TSMOH, or it could be 0 TSTOH. I tend to suspect the latter, because
it isn't specified. The reason I think the plane has been sitting in a
field is because just about everything that wears out from just sitting
has
been recently replaced or overhauled.

Isn't a factory reman also 0 time w/ new logbooks?

It can be. There's also such thing a factory overhaul, which is not a 0
time engine. Most people just do a major overhaul or a top overhaul, which
can be done by someone who is powerplant certified.

Unless I'm mistaken, 0SFOH is not a 0 time engine, where 0SFRM is a 0
time engine with new logs etc. It's how they're defined. So if they
did a factory remain it's cheaper than factory new but still 0 time,
but a factory overhaul carries over whatever time was on it when it
was overhauled.

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:48:48 GMT, "Mike" wrote:

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:33:38 GMT, "Mike" wrote:


From reading the description on the low time plane, I didn't get the
impression it was a 0 time engine. A 0 time engine to me means a
factory
new engine or 0 TTSN. In this case the engine could be 0 TTSN, or it
could
be 0 TSMOH, or it could be 0 TSTOH. I tend to suspect the latter,
because
it isn't specified. The reason I think the plane has been sitting in a
field is because just about everything that wears out from just sitting
has
been recently replaced or overhauled.

Isn't a factory reman also 0 time w/ new logbooks?

It can be. There's also such thing a factory overhaul, which is not a 0
time engine. Most people just do a major overhaul or a top overhaul,
which
can be done by someone who is powerplant certified.

Unless I'm mistaken, 0SFOH is not a 0 time engine, where 0SFRM is a 0
time engine with new logs etc. It's how they're defined. So if they
did a factory remain it's cheaper than factory new but still 0 time,
but a factory overhaul carries over whatever time was on it when it
was overhauled.

All of this may be, but it's probably a poor assumption that anything was
done at the factory as most overhauls aren't. Generally people who have
overhauls or rebuilds done at the factory or with notable engine builders
like PennYan Aero are going to mention that in the ad.