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IPC with a CFI?
On 2008-08-07 00:00:09 -0700, Pietro said:
wrote in news:4023f7be-cf2e-4830-8e7b- : I had a discussion with a CFI (not CFII) today. He indicated that it would be legal for him to give me an Instrument Competency Check. I was under the impression that it required a CFII. I'm looking at 61.57 and it says (2)The instrument proficiency check mist be given by - (iv) an authorized instructor Very carefully read the first paragraph of 61.193. The reasoning behind the FAA not specifying that it must be a CFII is found in this question in the Part 61 FAQ: QUESTION: Is it true that a CFI giving an endorsement for an Instrument Proficiency Check must have an instrument rating (CFII) on his/her flight instructor certificate? I can't seem to find anything in the current Part 61 that states that an Instrument Proficiency Check endorsement requires a CFII. The ¤61.57(d)(2)(iv) requires an Òauthorized instructorÓ. The definition of "authorized instructor" now seems to come from FAR 61.193 (Flight Instructor Privileges) and FAR 61.195 (Flight Instructor Limitations). The only reference to a requirement for a CFII that I can find is in FAR 61.195(c). ANSWER: Ref. ¤61.57(d)(2)(iv) and ¤61.193; A flight instructor who performs an instrument proficiency check, as required by ¤61.57(d), must hold the appropriate instrument rating for the category and class of aircraft that the instrument proficiency check is being conducted in. As per ¤61.193, it states in pertinent part, Ò. . . A person who holds a flight instructor certificate is authorized within the limitations of that person's flight instructor certificate and ratings to give training and endorsements that are required for, and relate to: * * * * * (f) An instrument rating; A flight instructor who does not hold an instrument rating on their flight instructor certificate that is appropriate to the category and class of aircraft that the instrument proficiency check is being conducted in is NOT authorized to conduct the instrument proficiency check. The term Òauthorized instructorÓ was intentionally used in ¤61.57(d) because authorization to conduct an instrument proficiency check is not limited to a CFII. A Ground Instructor Certificate - Instrument Rating is also an Òauthorized instructorÓ and is authorized to give the instrument proficiency check in an approved flight training device. Also, a Part 142 training center instructor, who may or may not hold any certificate or ratings, can be an Òauthorized instructorÓ who may give the instrument proficiency check that is performed under an approved Part 142 training program in an approved flight simulator, in accordance with a Part 142 approved training program. Another example, a pilot who holds a Letter of Operational Authority (LOOA) may give the endorsements for the instrument proficiency check to a holder of a Letter of Authorization (LOA).) Holders of an LOOA give training for the endorsement for the Letter of Authorization (LOA) allowing a pilot to act as pilot in command in surplus military turbine or piston powered airplane, in accordance with FAA Order 8700.1, Chapter 32. However, in this case, the holderÕs Letter of Operational Authority (LOOA) must specifically state this authority to give the endorsements for the instrument proficiency check. And so the rulemaking team that drafted the new Part 61 FAQs Part 61 With Chg #18, 12/05/2002 All Q&AÕs from #1 through #540 decided on merely stating . . . An authorized flight instructor . . .Ó But notice in ¤61.57(d)(2)(v), we also included Ò. . . A person approved by the Administrator to conduct instrument practical tests.Ó {Q&A-315} -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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