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In message , John
Mullen writes Clark wrote: "M. J. Powell" wrote in news:Uj2uRaHhqv2$EwF0 @pickmere.demon.co.uk: In message , Clark writes Do your homework Mike and you will be able to answer your question. I asked because I don't want to do more homework! So, how's that working out for ya? Assume jet fuel is pure decane, to simplify the calculation. C10H22 + 15.5O2 - 11H20 + 10CO2 1 mole C10H22 = 142g 1 mole H2O = 18g 1 mole CO2 = 44g So for every tonne (1000kg) of decane burned, assuming 100% combustion, you will have 1000000/142 * 11 * 18g = 1394360g = 1394kg water 1000000/142 * 10 * 44 = 3098590g = 3098kg carbon dioxide Which comes to about 4492kg of products. Where does the extra weight come from? Obviously from the oxygen used to burn the fuel, which comes to 1000000/142 * 15.5 * 32g = 3492957g = 3492kg The assumptions made won't have much effect on the calculation, and neither will rounding error. The biggest error probably comes from the 100% combustion; from the smell they make, most jets give out quite a bit of unburnt fuel. Right ball park though. HTH It does indeed. Thank you very much. Mike -- M.J.Powell |
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![]() "M. J. Powell" wrote in message ... In message , John Mullen writes Clark wrote: "M. J. Powell" wrote in news:Uj2uRaHhqv2$EwF0 @pickmere.demon.co.uk: In message , Clark writes Do your homework Mike and you will be able to answer your question. I asked because I don't want to do more homework! So, how's that working out for ya? Assume jet fuel is pure decane, to simplify the calculation. C10H22 + 15.5O2 - 11H20 + 10CO2 1 mole C10H22 = 142g 1 mole H2O = 18g 1 mole CO2 = 44g So for every tonne (1000kg) of decane burned, assuming 100% combustion, you will have 1000000/142 * 11 * 18g = 1394360g = 1394kg water 1000000/142 * 10 * 44 = 3098590g = 3098kg carbon dioxide Which comes to about 4492kg of products. Where does the extra weight come from? Obviously from the oxygen used to burn the fuel, which comes to 1000000/142 * 15.5 * 32g = 3492957g = 3492kg The assumptions made won't have much effect on the calculation, and neither will rounding error. The biggest error probably comes from the 100% combustion; from the smell they make, most jets give out quite a bit of unburnt fuel. Right ball park though. HTH It does indeed. Thank you very much. Just remember not to confuse a metric ton with 2000 lbs. |
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In message , Tarver Engineering
writes "M. J. Powell" wrote in message ... In message , John Mullen writes Clark wrote: "M. J. Powell" wrote in news:Uj2uRaHhqv2$EwF0 @pickmere.demon.co.uk: In message , Clark writes Do your homework Mike and you will be able to answer your question. I asked because I don't want to do more homework! So, how's that working out for ya? Assume jet fuel is pure decane, to simplify the calculation. C10H22 + 15.5O2 - 11H20 + 10CO2 1 mole C10H22 = 142g 1 mole H2O = 18g 1 mole CO2 = 44g So for every tonne (1000kg) of decane burned, assuming 100% combustion, you will have 1000000/142 * 11 * 18g = 1394360g = 1394kg water 1000000/142 * 10 * 44 = 3098590g = 3098kg carbon dioxide Which comes to about 4492kg of products. Where does the extra weight come from? Obviously from the oxygen used to burn the fuel, which comes to 1000000/142 * 15.5 * 32g = 3492957g = 3492kg The assumptions made won't have much effect on the calculation, and neither will rounding error. The biggest error probably comes from the 100% combustion; from the smell they make, most jets give out quite a bit of unburnt fuel. Right ball park though. HTH It does indeed. Thank you very much. Just remember not to confuse a metric ton with 2000 lbs. I'm used to 2240 lbs/ton. Mike -- M.J.Powell |
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M. J. Powell wrote:
In message , Tarver Engineering writes "M. J. Powell" wrote in message ... In message , John Mullen writes Clark wrote: "M. J. Powell" wrote in news:Uj2uRaHhqv2$EwF0 @pickmere.demon.co.uk: In message , Clark writes Do your homework Mike and you will be able to answer your question. I asked because I don't want to do more homework! So, how's that working out for ya? Assume jet fuel is pure decane, to simplify the calculation. C10H22 + 15.5O2 - 11H20 + 10CO2 1 mole C10H22 = 142g 1 mole H2O = 18g 1 mole CO2 = 44g So for every tonne (1000kg) of decane burned, assuming 100% combustion, you will have 1000000/142 * 11 * 18g = 1394360g = 1394kg water 1000000/142 * 10 * 44 = 3098590g = 3098kg carbon dioxide Which comes to about 4492kg of products. Where does the extra weight come from? Obviously from the oxygen used to burn the fuel, which comes to 1000000/142 * 15.5 * 32g = 3492957g = 3492kg The assumptions made won't have much effect on the calculation, and neither will rounding error. The biggest error probably comes from the 100% combustion; from the smell they make, most jets give out quite a bit of unburnt fuel. Right ball park though. HTH It does indeed. Thank you very much. Just remember not to confuse a metric ton with 2000 lbs. I'm used to 2240 lbs/ton. Mike Well you can just scale it up, it's a ratio. 1 ton of fuel + 3.5 tons oxygen gives 1.4 tons water and 3.1 tons carbon dioxide, whichever version of the ton/tonne you use, and there are at least three that I know of! John |
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In message , John
Mullen writes Just remember not to confuse a metric ton with 2000 lbs. I'm used to 2240 lbs/ton. Mike Well you can just scale it up, it's a ratio. 1 ton of fuel + 3.5 tons oxygen gives 1.4 tons water and 3.1 tons carbon dioxide, whichever version of the ton/tonne you use, and there are at least three that I know of! Yes, thank you. It was just the round figures that I wanted to bolster up my general theory about the weather. Mike -- M.J.Powell |
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