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Old August 14th 08, 02:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ricky
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Default How much fuel do you prefer to carry?

On Aug 13, 2:58*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Ricky writes:
Anthony, NO, NO, NO! You do not have to fly exclusively by instruments
in IMC. There are often conditions IN LEGAL IMC where on flys by
visual reference.


Legally, you must be on instruments.


Anthony, that is not the truth. You are wrong.

I'll quote you to the NTSB; that might make it easier for them to determine
probable cause after you're gone.


Where are you pulling this out of? Thin air? How many ways do lots of
people have to say "you do not have to be on instruments in IMC or in
IFR? You can fly visually in IFR and IMC, what do you not understand
about that? I am an instrument pilot with lots and lots of hours, I
know the regs, the rules, and how to fly in IMC. Why do you insist on
continuing to make a fool out of yourself with your incorrectness?
What do you not get that IMC does not have to mean that you can't see
outside?

The reason they are disagreeing with me is that their desire to prove me wrong
is so intense that it takes priority over their own safety. *If they cannot
shake themselves free of this emotion, they will be a danger to themselves in
the air.


You don't have to be proven wrong. You simply ARE wrong. Why can't you
accept that from of a bunch of IFR pilots with thousands of hours?

Ricky

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Old August 14th 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default How much fuel do you prefer to carry?

Ricky writes:

You don't have to be proven wrong. You simply ARE wrong. Why can't you
accept that from of a bunch of IFR pilots with thousands of hours?


Most pilots here are not instrument rated, and some of those who are are more
interested in scoring points against me in a one-sided game than in following
the path of safety. I will not yield to this, so there's no sense in trying
it.
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Old August 14th 08, 08:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Benjamin Dover
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Default How much fuel do you prefer to carry?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ricky writes:

You don't have to be proven wrong. You simply ARE wrong. Why can't
you accept that from of a bunch of IFR pilots with thousands of
hours?


Most pilots here are not instrument rated, and some of those who are
are more interested in scoring points against me in a one-sided game
than in following the path of safety. I will not yield to this, so
there's no sense in trying it.


Translation: I, Anthony Atkielski, am a ****ing moron and damn proud of
it!

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Old August 14th 08, 01:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How much fuel do you prefer to carry?

On Aug 14, 3:59*am, Benjamin Dover wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

Ricky writes:


You don't have to be proven wrong. You simply ARE wrong. Why can't
you accept that from of a bunch of IFR pilots with thousands of
hours?


Most pilots here are not instrument rated, and some of those who are
are more interested in scoring points against me in a one-sided game
than in following the path of safety. *I will not yield to this, so
there's no sense in trying it.


Translation: *I, Anthony Atkielski, am a ****ing moron and damn proud of

The other aspect of his personality is last-word-itis. Don't you
really enjoy getting tutorials from a non pilot recluse living in a
hovel in Paris? It isn't that wisdom can't come from such a location,
but this particular fountain doesn't offer wisdom, but self gratifying
babble.

We do give him attention, though, so that justifies his postings.

I'll follow viperdoc's suggestion though, and attempt to ignore him
for a while. Exchanges are no longer entertaining.
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Old August 14th 08, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How much fuel do you prefer to carry?

On Aug 13, 3:58*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Ricky writes:
Anthony, NO, NO, NO! You do not have to fly exclusively by instruments
in IMC. There are often conditions IN LEGAL IMC where on flys by
visual reference.


Legally, you must be on instruments. *The law isn't written that way just to
make life difficult for pilots.

You can always rely on instruments, even in the clearest weather. *But you
cannot always rely on visual references. *And if you are in IMC, you may only
be seconds away from a loss of visual references.

IFR DOES NOT mean "flying by instruments alone." You are wrong! Show
me where you learned this gibberish if you are so sure about it.


I'll quote you to the NTSB; that might make it easier for them to determine
probable cause after you're gone.

The reason they are disagreeing with you is because you are NOT a
pilot ...


The reason they are disagreeing with me is that their desire to prove me wrong
is so intense that it takes priority over their own safety. *If they cannot
shake themselves free of this emotion, they will be a danger to themselves in
the air.


You have a significant problem if you think any experienced instrument
rated pilot will base his or her flying on posts you've made. We are
safe pilots because we work at developing and using superior judgment.
That you have no experience in flying, or as best we can tell, using
superior judgment in your posts tells us all we need to know about
you. You are simply, very often as demonstrated here, an ignorant
diversion.

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Old August 14th 08, 04:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Aug 13, 11:00*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
You have a significant problem if you think any experienced instrument
rated pilot will base his or her flying on posts you've made.


An experienced instrument pilot already knows the point I'm trying to make
(whether he's willing to publicly admit that or not is a separate question).

We are safe pilots because we work at developing and using superior judgment.


Superior judgement includes the ability to rely solely on instruments when
necessary, and always on instruments as a final authority.


That's a retreat from your earlier dogma.
 




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