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Old August 15th 08, 12:50 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:07:34 -0400, Tiger
wrote:

Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf will resign rather than face
impeachment by parliament, the Financial Times said on its Web site,
citing government officials and a member of his circle.



The consequence will be a power struggle between the two "democratic"
blocs, both of which are based on the two principal and antagonistic
feudal land owning clans. The government cannot function. The
country decends into chaos and bankruptcy that no amount of American
aid will be able to reverse. Either the Pakistani Army takes over
again or the Taliban does. With that goes Afghanistan and Indian
stability.

1. Taliban win a fight - and settle scores
When the Pakistani military launched operations against Taliban and
al-Qaeda militants in Bajaur Agency, their opponents were more than
ready, having been briefed by well-placed informants. Under the
unified command of radical leader Baitullah Mehsud, the militants
repulsed the offensive and are already planning retaliatory attacks in
other parts of the country. And on Wednesday, Baitullah settled a
score with one of Islamabad's last remaining "precious assets". - Syed
Saleem Shahzad (Aug 13, '08)
Full article in http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH14Df01.html

2. India-Pakistan relations in free fall
The Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir is back on a razor's edge, with
huge Muslim protests and a Hindu backlash stoking violence. Pakistan
has internationalized the issue, just as Delhi works with the United
States to pressure Islamabad over its commitment to the "war on
terror". The peace process between India and Pakistan is on hold, and
given the volatility of the political situation in both countries,
Kashmir will continue to burn. - M K Bhadrakumar (Aug 14, '08)
Full article in http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH15Df01.html
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Old August 16th 08, 02:24 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"Zombywoof" wrote in message
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Perhaps one day they will simply Nuke each other & be done with it.


Except the Pakistanis can't hit anything south of Delhi.

Which means that they can't hit the huge Indian bases in Maharashtra and
Goa, which means they're stuffed, and, chances are, India gets
reunified...


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old August 16th 08, 10:50 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"tankfixer" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...

Perhaps one day they will simply Nuke each other & be done with it.


Except the Pakistanis can't hit anything south of Delhi.

Which means that they can't hit the huge Indian bases in Maharashtra and
Goa, which means they're stuffed, and, chances are, India gets
reunified...



They can't hit those bases with normal means of delivery.


They can't hit them with nukes.

Going on past performance they may drop a few iron bombs and kill a few
civilians, but they won't do any serious damage to the military
infrastructure.

They did try in the past, my wife remembers doing air raid drills in Bombay
in the 1965 war (which had some tank battles worth reading up on for people
with an exaggerated view of Pakistani military capabilities) ,but these days
India is much stronger militarily than it was and Pakistan is weakened in a
conventional conflict by having its elite units optimised for fighting in
the NWF against terrorists.

Unlike Pakistan, the Indian army tends not to train units specially for
anti-terrorist work but follows the British model of using ordinary soldiers
for 'security duties' (wandering about and being seen) and a few small
specialist units to do the dirty work.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



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Old August 17th 08, 03:46 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
tankfixer
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president

In article ,
says...

"tankfixer" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...

Perhaps one day they will simply Nuke each other & be done with it.

Except the Pakistanis can't hit anything south of Delhi.

Which means that they can't hit the huge Indian bases in Maharashtra and
Goa, which means they're stuffed, and, chances are, India gets
reunified...



They can't hit those bases with normal means of delivery.


They can't hit them with nukes.


IIRC Goa is a major seaport.
Should be easy to get one there.



Going on past performance they may drop a few iron bombs and kill a few
civilians, but they won't do any serious damage to the military
infrastructure.

They did try in the past, my wife remembers doing air raid drills in Bombay
in the 1965 war (which had some tank battles worth reading up on for people
with an exaggerated view of Pakistani military capabilities) ,but these days
India is much stronger militarily than it was and Pakistan is weakened in a
conventional conflict by having its elite units optimised for fighting in
the NWF against terrorists.

Unlike Pakistan, the Indian army tends not to train units specially for
anti-terrorist work but follows the British model of using ordinary soldiers
for 'security duties' (wandering about and being seen) and a few small
specialist units to do the dirty work.



--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.
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Old August 17th 08, 11:10 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
William Black[_1_]
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Default Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president


"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"tankfixer" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

"Zombywoof" wrote in message
...

Perhaps one day they will simply Nuke each other & be done with it.

Except the Pakistanis can't hit anything south of Delhi.

Which means that they can't hit the huge Indian bases in Maharashtra
and
Goa, which means they're stuffed, and, chances are, India gets
reunified...


They can't hit those bases with normal means of delivery.


They can't hit them with nukes.


IIRC Goa is a major seaport.
Should be easy to get one there.


Goa is an Indian state with a population in millions.

There in a major Indian navy fleet base in Goa, but somehow I doubt the
ability of the Pakistani armed forces to smuggle an atomic bomb into it.

In any case it's not the only major base the Indian navy has on that coast,
there's the huge one in Bombay.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



 




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