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Old August 16th 08, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
buttman
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Default What to do if the canopy opens during flight ?

On Aug 15, 4:40*pm, Superdoof wrote:

I've had a door open a few times during flight too, on a Cessna 152.
My instructor showed me how to close it in-flight.

You slow down to nearly stall speed, which means you can open the door
just wide enough to slam it well enough to close. Although it would be
safe to leave open.


What? You don't even need to do that. I have about 800 hours in a
C152, which means I've about 800 instances of the door popping open.

First you open the window, then you grab the door by the window frame,
push out hard against the relative wind, then slam it close. You don't
even need to slow down, unless you are a wimp or something.
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Old August 16th 08, 12:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default What to do if the canopy opens during flight ?

On Aug 16, 11:21*am, buttman wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:40*pm, Superdoof wrote:



I've had a door open a few times during flight too, on a Cessna 152.
My instructor showed me how to close it in-flight.


You slow down to nearly stall speed, which means you can open the door
just wide enough to slam it well enough to close. Although it would be
safe to leave open.


What? You don't even need to do that. I have about 800 hours in a
C152, which means I've about 800 instances of the door popping open.

First you open the window, then you grab the door by the window frame,
push out hard against the relative wind, then slam it close. You don't
even need to slow down, unless you are a wimp or something.


You need to either get the door catch fixed or do your pre take off
checks properly.

Cheers
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Old August 16th 08, 12:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default What to do if the canopy opens during flight ?

On Aug 15, 5:24*pm, More_Flaps wrote:
On Aug 16, 11:21*am, buttman wrote:



On Aug 15, 4:40*pm, Superdoof wrote:


I've had a door open a few times during flight too, on a Cessna 152.
My instructor showed me how to close it in-flight.


You slow down to nearly stall speed, which means you can open the door
just wide enough to slam it well enough to close. Although it would be
safe to leave open.


What? You don't even need to do that. I have about 800 hours in a
C152, which means I've about 800 instances of the door popping open.


First you open the window, then you grab the door by the window frame,
push out hard against the relative wind, then slam it close. You don't
even need to slow down, unless you are a wimp or something.


You need to either get the door catch fixed or do your pre take off
checks properly.

Cheers


I was exagerating on the amount of instances the door has popped open.
More like 50 or 100 instances.

The C152 door latch was very poorly designed. Its not like Piper/
Beechcraft latches or even a 172 latch. There is no locking mechanism.
The way they work is theres a little bolt thing that sticks out from
the door that gets wedged between these gears in the door frame. As
those planes age the latch gets weaker and weaker to where you have to
slam them every time, and even then, it'll still pop open.
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Old August 16th 08, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default What to do if the canopy opens during flight ?

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:32:34 -0700 (PDT), buttman
wrote:

On Aug 15, 5:24*pm, More_Flaps wrote:
On Aug 16, 11:21*am, buttman wrote:



On Aug 15, 4:40*pm, Superdoof wrote:


I've had a door open a few times during flight too, on a Cessna 152.
My instructor showed me how to close it in-flight.


You slow down to nearly stall speed, which means you can open the door
just wide enough to slam it well enough to close. Although it would be
safe to leave open.


What? You don't even need to do that. I have about 800 hours in a
C152, which means I've about 800 instances of the door popping open.


First you open the window, then you grab the door by the window frame,
push out hard against the relative wind, then slam it close. You don't
even need to slow down, unless you are a wimp or something.


You need to either get the door catch fixed or do your pre take off
checks properly.

Cheers


I was exagerating on the amount of instances the door has popped open.
More like 50 or 100 instances.

The C152 door latch was very poorly designed. Its not like Piper/
Beechcraft latches or even a 172 latch. There is no locking mechanism.
The way they work is theres a little bolt thing that sticks out from
the door that gets wedged between these gears in the door frame. As
those planes age the latch gets weaker and weaker to where you have to
slam them every time, and even then, it'll still pop open.


it has stuff all to do with the door latch.
that aircraft has a vent problem. air inlets working but air outlets
blocked.
Stealth Pilot
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Old August 16th 08, 01:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default What to do if the canopy opens during flight ?

On Aug 16, 11:32 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
buttman wrote in news:09c6c89f-3978-48a9-805a-
:

On Aug 15, 4:40 pm, Superdoof wrote:


I've had a door open a few times during flight too, on a Cessna 152.
My instructor showed me how to close it in-flight.


You slow down to nearly stall speed, which means you can open the door
just wide enough to slam it well enough to close. Although it would be
safe to leave open.


What? You don't even need to do that. I have about 800 hours in a
C152, which means I've about 800 instances of the door popping open.


IOW you don't know how to secure the door in your airplane and you don't
know how to squawk an airplane to a mechanic.


:-)
The door opening on a C150-152 is no worry.
You have an 85 knot air stream that's going to hold it from opening
any further.
Aircraft with sliding canopies can be flown with the canopy ajar and
even fully open..

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Old August 16th 08, 01:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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george wrote in
:

On Aug 16, 11:32 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
buttman wrote in news:09c6c89f-3978-48a9-805a-
:

On Aug 15, 4:40 pm, Superdoof wrote:


I've had a door open a few times during flight too, on a Cessna
152. My instructor showed me how to close it in-flight.


You slow down to nearly stall speed, which means you can open the
door just wide enough to slam it well enough to close. Although it
would be safe to leave open.


What? You don't even need to do that. I have about 800 hours in a
C152, which means I've about 800 instances of the door popping
open.


IOW you don't know how to secure the door in your airplane and you
don't know how to squawk an airplane to a mechanic.


:-)
The door opening on a C150-152 is no worry.
You have an 85 knot air stream that's going to hold it from opening
any further.
Aircraft with sliding canopies can be flown with the canopy ajar and
even fully open..



Some can. I did have th ecanopy on a Blanik open in flight. KIt made
quite a mess when it crashed agains the side of the fuselage. The
remnants came crashing back and the glide angle was severely affected by
the big hole in the airplane.

Bertie

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Old August 17th 08, 03:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:21:47 -0700 (PDT), buttman wrote:

First you open the window, then you grab the door by the window frame,
push out hard against the relative wind, then slam it close.


Here's a photo of my finger after doing that in a 172 when the window came
down in the slipstream:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...sDallas030.jpg


--
Dallas
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Old August 17th 08, 02:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dallas" wrote

Here's a photo of my finger after doing that in a 172 when the window came
down in the slipstream:


chuckle

Sorry to see that happened to you. Sorry for laughing, too, but you are as
bad as me! It takes a special person to take time to take a close-up of a
"good injury." Is that two or three stitches worth? Surprising that a
window can do that.

I have a picture of an air nail gun powered roofing nail going in and back
out the other side of my thumb. It's one of my favorites!
--
Jim in NC


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Old August 17th 08, 08:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:35:10 -0400, Morgans wrote:

Surprising that a window can do that.


It's ok to laugh... it was funny about twenty minutes after it happened.

Right after it happened, the first thing I did was to look to see if my
finger was still there. It was a miracle it didn't break the bone.

I have a nice scar that should be there for the rest of my life... It's a
great conversation starter at cocktail parties.


--
Dallas
 




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