Pakistan's Musharraf to resign as president

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Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?

If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst there's
nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

If your shooting into the air with aircraft around the implication is
you are trying to hit somebody.

Or celebrating something...


In that case they're not insurgents, they're the local government...

Before they were just innocent civvilians, why the change ?


Is English not your native language?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?

If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst there's
nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

If your shooting into the air with aircraft around the implication is
you are trying to hit somebody.

Or celebrating something...

Would you care to be in the aircraft at night and have to make the
decision ?



In that case they're not insurgents, they're the local government...

Before they were just innocent civvilians, why the change ?


Is English not your native language?

I accept your surrender.

--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.

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Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?

If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst there's
nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

If your shooting into the air with aircraft around the implication is
you are trying to hit somebody.

Or celebrating something...

Would you care to be in the aircraft at night and have to make the
decision ?


There are 2 issues here.

The first is, the bombing(s) of a wedding party was a terrible error.
Given. The Americans don't bomb innocent civilians intentionally.

The second issue is, that doesn't make the people - Pakistanis - like you
more, even when they know that.

- nilita

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"tankfixer" wrote in message
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Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?

If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst there's
nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

If your shooting into the air with aircraft around the implication is
you are trying to hit somebody.

Or celebrating something...

Would you care to be in the aircraft at night and have to make the
decision ?


There are 2 issues here.

The first is, the bombing(s) of a wedding party was a terrible error.
Given. The Americans don't bomb innocent civilians intentionally.

Our friend has been claiming it is policy.
A most absurd statement IMHO.



The second issue is, that doesn't make the people - Pakistanis - like you
more, even when they know that.

I'd imagine it wouldn't make anyone happy.

I've yet to see a solution suggested though.


--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.

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"tankfixer" wrote in message
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Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?

If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst
there's
nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

If your shooting into the air with aircraft around the implication
is
you are trying to hit somebody.

Or celebrating something...

Would you care to be in the aircraft at night and have to make the
decision ?


There are 2 issues here.

The first is, the bombing(s) of a wedding party was a terrible error.
Given. The Americans don't bomb innocent civilians intentionally.

Our friend has been claiming it is policy.
A most absurd statement IMHO.



It is indeed an absurd statement.




The second issue is, that doesn't make the people - Pakistanis - like
you
more, even when they know that.

I'd imagine it wouldn't make anyone happy.

I've yet to see a solution suggested though.


A solution to ... what?

Here's the deal. It is what it is. American foreign policy gets instituted
and we get into the cause-and-effect thingy. Americans generally don't have
a good idea as to how they are perceived by "furriners". I imagine most
Americans don't care or would tend to think that the "furriner" thinking is
wrong. Generally speaking, the Pakistanis hate you. However, most
(conservative) Americans would like to believe that they ("the Pakis") are
all lining up for Green Cards to run 7/11s in Michigan.

Is it any wonder the world is in the state it is?

- nilita

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"tankfixer" wrote in message
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Pointing out that shooting weapons into the air in an area with
insugents around is a bad idea is blaming the victims ?

If you're dropping bombs on weddings the implication is thst
there's
nobody
on the ground shouting 'don't shoot, it's a wedding'.

If your shooting into the air with aircraft around the implication
is
you are trying to hit somebody.

Or celebrating something...

Would you care to be in the aircraft at night and have to make the
decision ?


There are 2 issues here.

The first is, the bombing(s) of a wedding party was a terrible error.
Given. The Americans don't bomb innocent civilians intentionally.

Our friend has been claiming it is policy.
A most absurd statement IMHO.



It is indeed an absurd statement.




The second issue is, that doesn't make the people - Pakistanis - like
you
more, even when they know that.

I'd imagine it wouldn't make anyone happy.

I've yet to see a solution suggested though.


A solution to ... what?

Here's the deal. It is what it is. American foreign policy gets instituted
and we get into the cause-and-effect thingy. Americans generally don't have
a good idea as to how they are perceived by "furriners". I imagine most
Americans don't care or would tend to think that the "furriner" thinking is
wrong. Generally speaking, the Pakistanis hate you. However, most
(conservative) Americans would like to believe that they ("the Pakis") are
all lining up for Green Cards to run 7/11s in Michigan.

You were doing ok until you got sophmoric about Pakistani's and 7/11's.


Is it any wonder the world is in the state it is?

What solution to you propose ?

--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.

Here's the deal. *It is what it is. *American foreign policy gets instituted
and we get into the cause-and-effect thingy. *Americans generally don't have
a good idea as to how they are perceived by "furriners". *I imagine most
Americans don't care or would tend to think that the "furriner" thinking is
wrong. *Generally speaking, the Pakistanis hate you. *However, most
(conservative) Americans would like to believe that they ("the Pakis") are
all lining up for Green Cards to run 7/11s in Michigan.

They'd also line up in Sangatte if they can, it's got nothing to do
with trivial local political sensibilities, or whether they like you
or not. Their mindset is that of the dust bowl, survive. Read
Steinbeck or live in a place you can't even trust your drinking
water.for a while.

Is it any wonder the world is in the state it is?

I assume you are thinking it is in a sad state?

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"tankfixer" wrote in message

Our friend has been claiming it is policy.
A most absurd statement IMHO.



It is indeed an absurd statement.


So why are they still bombing weddings?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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"tankfixer" wrote in message

Our friend has been claiming it is policy.
A most absurd statement IMHO.



It is indeed an absurd statement.


So why are they still bombing weddings?


Are you suggesting that Americans bomb weddings because they don't like
weddings? What are they getting out of bombing weddings besides bad p.r.?

- nilita

William Black wrote:
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"tankfixer" wrote in message

Our friend has been claiming it is policy.
A most absurd statement IMHO.


It is indeed an absurd statement.


So why are they still bombing weddings?

Because Muslims still have not learnt that guns are not toys.

Andrew Swallow