Let's move on

Mxsmanic wrote in
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More_Flaps writes:

I'd say yes but it's really bad idea for getting additional type
ratings efficiently. Can you imagine trying to land a tail dragger
without any experience of using a rudder?

But taildraggers need a lot of specific training already, don't they?


You are an idiot.


Bertie

On Aug 20, 2:15*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
More_Flaps writes:
I'd say yes but it's really bad idea for getting additional type
ratings efficiently. Can you imagine trying to land a tail dragger
without any experience of using a rudder?

But taildraggers need a lot of specific training already, don't they?

Why already? Yes they have specific properties that lead to an
endorsment.

Cheers

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Jay Honeck writes:

On the other hand, if all you want to do is fly, and you have no intention
of buying up the performance ladder, who really cares if you know how to
fly
anything beyond an Ercoupe? It's all about your personal choice, and if I
were at a different point in my life right now, I might be very happy to
only fly the Ercoupe.

Can you obtain a PPL without knowing how to use rudder pedals?

Yes, but you are limited to single-control airplanes. You have to take
an additional flight test in an airplane with rudder controls in order
to lift the restriction.

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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Much of his design innovations have become standard in all planes
(an electric starter, all-metal construction, etc.) and were quite
modern for the time -- but much of them did NOT become standard,
meaning that learning
to fly in an Ercoupe is pretty much a developmental dead-end.
You'll never
know how to fly a plane with rudder pedals if you train in one that
only has
a brake pedal on the floor!


That is what I thought at first as well, but then I got to thinking:
I learned to drive in an automatic, and later learned to drive a
stick.

True, but IMHO the choice of rudder pedals (versus none) are a bit
more important to an airplane than the choice of stick shift (versus
none) is to a car. Learning to use a primary flight control properly
could one day be the difference between life and death, whereas manual
shifting versus an automatic transmission is more of a personal
performance choice.

This from a cherokee pilot who doesn't know what his feet are for anyway.


Bertie

Rocky Stevens wrote in
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On Aug 17, 9:33 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

Much of his design innovations have become standard in all planes (an
electric starter, all-metal construction, etc.) and were quite modern
for the time -- but much of them did NOT become standard, meaning
that learning to fly in an Ercoupe is pretty much a developmental
dead-end. You'll never know how to fly a plane with rudder pedals if
you train in one that only has a brake pedal on the floor!


That is what I thought at first as well, but then I got to thinking: I
learned to drive in an automatic, and later learned to drive a stick.
Also, many people learn to fly with fixed gear, and then later go on
to retractable (though as far as I know there is not that much
difference there besides remembering to lower the gear).

In any event, I do not have the guts to buy a plane right now; I am
notoriously cheap (which makes me a REAL genius for taking up flying).



They're crap for training, and so are Cherokees, which handle in a very
similar fashion.
The reason is that the habits formed in the first few hours are those that
remain with the pilot for life. It's difficult to undo those habits once
formed.


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Rocky Stevens wrote in
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On Aug 17, 9:33 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:


They're crap for training, and so are Cherokees, which handle in a very
similar fashion.
The reason is that the habits formed in the first few hours are those that
remain with the pilot for life. It's difficult to undo those habits once
formed.


Bertie


AAAwwwww, Bertie and Mx's sock in a stroking session. I'm sure like your
brother Dudley, Mx will soon follow.

"5 by 5" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Rocky Stevens wrote in

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On Aug 17, 9:33 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:


They're crap for training, and so are Cherokees, which handle in a
very similar fashion.
The reason is that the habits formed in the first few hours are those
that remain with the pilot for life. It's difficult to undo those
habits once formed.


Bertie


AAAwwwww, Bertie and Mx's sock in a stroking session. I'm sure like
your brother Dudley, Mx will soon follow.



Yeh, sure wannabe boi.



Bertie