Sec. of State Rice warns Russia about Bombers off Alaska

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:04:16 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Aug 22, 8:13*am, (Richard Casady)
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:00:32 -0700 (PDT), george
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On Aug 22, 6:10 am, "William Black"
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"Rob Arndt" wrote in message

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So what? Sounds like Condi has more ****ing balls than you do. What do
you do when a hunter with a rifle encounters a hostile bear? Drop his
gun and get into the fetal position hoping it will just sniff around
you and leave? No, you aim and shoot the ****er dead.

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That's great, *right up to when you realise that the bear has a gun too,
and so does his wife and his kids.

I can't work out as to why his only solution to a wild animal is to
destroy it.
The simile is absurd

Of the critters in North America, only bears, possibly moose, are
dangerous enough to occasionally need shooting in self defence. All
the rest get a pass unless one needs to eat them. [I haven't shot any
game in about thirty years.]

Casady


Rattlesnakes and cottonmouths say "hi". Also, mountain
lions have been getting a bit more frisky lately.

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it. Lions do not have an
extensive record for attacking people. Bears do.

Casady

On Aug 22, 11:39*am, (Richard Casady)
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:04:16 -0700 (PDT), "





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On Aug 22, 8:13*am, (Richard Casady)
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:00:32 -0700 (PDT), george
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On Aug 22, 6:10 am, "William Black"
wrote:
"Rob Arndt" wrote in message

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So what? Sounds like Condi has more ****ing balls than you do. What do
you do when a hunter with a rifle encounters a hostile bear? Drop his
gun and get into the fetal position hoping it will just sniff around
you and leave? No, you aim and shoot the ****er dead.

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That's great, *right up to when you realise that the bear has a gun too,
and so does his wife and his kids.

I can't work out as to why his only solution to a wild animal is to
destroy it.
The simile is absurd

Of the critters in North America, only bears, possibly moose, are
dangerous enough to occasionally need shooting in self defence. All
the rest get a pass unless one needs to eat them. [I haven't shot any
game in about thirty years.]

Casady

* * * * * * *Rattlesnakes and cottonmouths say "hi". Also, mountain
lions have been getting a bit more frisky lately.

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it. Lions do not have an
extensive record for attacking people. Bears do.

Casady

Snakes are fine unless they decide to move in. Mountqain
lions...which there was no record of an attack on a human until about
20 years ago....are now averaging 3-4 per year.

In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Lions do not have an extensive record for attacking people.

That has been changing in the past decade or so; several attacks,
including some fatalities, in California and Colorado in the past few
years.

Their numbers have been rising pretty well, and they really do seem to
be losing their fear of humans at the same time.

Bears do.

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix
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In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Casady

On Aug 23, 1:38*pm, (Richard Casady)
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix

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In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Casady


Uh, not if they have livestock. Rattlesnake bites on cows are
expensive.

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Aug 23, 1:38*pm, (Richard Casady)
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix

wrote:
In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Casady


Uh, not if they have livestock. Rattlesnake bites on cows are
expensive.

Livestock are in the pasture. Hay and equipment are in the barn. Any
snake in the barn is not in the pasture.

Casady

In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Aug 23, 1:38*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix

wrote:
In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Casady


Uh, not if they have livestock. Rattlesnake bites on cows are
expensive.

Livestock are in the pasture. Hay and equipment are in the barn. Any
snake in the barn is not in the pasture.

Never worked with milking cows, or goats, or had horses? They all end up
in and around the barns regularly.

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:37:16 -0700, Steve Hix
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In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Aug 23, 1:38*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix

wrote:
In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Casady


Uh, not if they have livestock. Rattlesnake bites on cows are
expensive.

Livestock are in the pasture. Hay and equipment are in the barn. Any
snake in the barn is not in the pasture.

Never worked with milking cows, or goats, or had horses? They all end up
in and around the barns regularly.

Western ranches few to no milking cows, who are not found in barns in
any case. They do have purpose built milking sheds, where they do have
dairy cattle, in places like Iowa. As for horses, modern ranches may
not have any, although they all have at least one pickup per person.
You are about as likely to find a modern cowboy in an airplane as on a
horse.

Casady

On Aug 23, 3:46*pm, (Richard Casady)
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT), "





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On Aug 23, 1:38*pm, (Richard Casady)
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix

wrote:
In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Casady

* * *Uh, not if they have livestock. Rattlesnake bites on cows are
expensive.

Livestock are in the pasture. Hay and equipment are in the barn. Any
snake in the barn is not in the pasture.

Casady


Not so much.....many livestocks end up in or around barns
fairly regularly. I've known a lot of farmers and ranchers.....they
put up with nonvenomous snakes. They kill venomous ones. Besides, most
ratters and mousers that I've seen are cats....with the occasional
terrier type dog.
And if they keep horses, all snakes get disposed of.....horses
really don't like snakes.

In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:12:35 -0700, Steve Hix
wrote:

In article ,
(Richard Casady) wrote:

It is easier to avoid a snake than shoot it.

I've lived in rattlesnake country almost all my life. Never a problem,
as long I take some care turning over rocks or logs in the spring, when
the hatchlings are first out. If I could just convince the local bull
snakes to move in on the gophers...

Many western ranches do nothing to discourage rattlers in the barn.
They like the rodents less.

Non-venemous rodent-eating snakes would be far preferable to
rattlesnakes, at least where you spend much time working.

Local ranchers that I know are fine with gopher/bull/corn/etc snakes in
and around the barns. Rattlesnakes, not so much.