Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Lou writes:

Why would you follow a road?

Pilotage. I try to practice different forms of navigation, and pilotage
is a
useful type of navigation for VFR flights.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

But fun!

"BT" wrote in message
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What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Lou writes:

Why would you follow a road?

Pilotage. I try to practice different forms of navigation, and pilotage
is a
useful type of navigation for VFR flights.

What is it that makes you think he not practicing pilotage? What would you
call what he describes what he is doing? (reference please). We'll give you
a little time to read up on Pilotage, DR and Radio navigation and then you
can restate what you said.
--
Regards, Bob F.

In rec.aviation.student BT wrote:
What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

My understanding is that you have just described dead reckoning with
occasional corrections coming from pilotage. Pure pilotage is simply
knowing where you are by looking out the window. When on the move, you
just keep looking out the window and keep updating your mental picture of
where you are. You may make mental estimates based on this of how long it
will be to get to the next landmark, but if you're doing actual
computation then you're beyond mere pilotage already.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can
navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations
to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to
navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

Because I am absolutely certain, any real pilot already knows the answer,
and you are just trolling.

"Wilhelm" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb
assed questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

Because I am absolutely certain, any real pilot already knows the
answer,

Well, you obviously don't.


Bertie

"Wilhelm" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can
navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations
to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to
navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you just answer his DAQ then maybe the Newbies can benefit. Think of his
questions as elementary and now is an opportunity to help others....like
"why is he sky blue" or "where do babies come from". I went through a bunch
of his q's and although they are very juvenile and elementary, many in this
community got the answers wrong. So take the Q's as they are...you
know...when life hands you lemons...get a glass of gin, some ice and make
yourself a nice drink...or something like that. Iow, make the most of it
and use his q's to educate all those who are listening in. If you can't
answer his q's then please shut up and he'll go away.

--
Regards, Bob F.