Detained at the whim of the president

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In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up yourself?

Interesting how the left's true believers are incapable of coherent debate,
and must resort to personal insult. I bet Bush is significantly brighter
than most of these people.

A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:



Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.

CHRIS BLACK, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Frank, President- elect George W.
Bush came to Capitol Hill today for the first time since the election intending
to listen to congressional leaders, the bipartisan congressional leadership. But
he also made it clear to them, in more than two and a half hours of meetings,
that he intends to stand by his tax cut proposal and other planks in his
campaign agenda.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If
this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm
the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.





Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 12/15/2003 5:57 PM Central Standard Time
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B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

Interesting how the left's true believers are incapable of coherent
debate,
and must resort to personal insult. I bet Bush is significantly brighter
than most of these people.

A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:



Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.

CHRIS BLACK, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Frank, President- elect George
W.
Bush came to Capitol Hill today for the first time since the election
intending
to listen to congressional leaders, the bipartisan congressional leadership.
But
he also made it clear to them, in more than two and a half hours of meetings,
that he intends to stand by his tax cut proposal and other planks in his
campaign agenda.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK.
If
this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm
the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 12/15/2003 5:57 PM Central Standard Time
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B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

Interesting how the left's true believers are incapable of coherent
debate,
and must resort to personal insult. I bet Bush is significantly
brighter
than most of these people.

A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:



Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional
Leaders on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY
BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George
W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the
day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.

CHRIS BLACK, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Frank, President- elect
George
W.
Bush came to Capitol Hill today for the first time since the election
intending
to listen to congressional leaders, the bipartisan congressional
leadership.
But
he also made it clear to them, in more than two and a half hours of
meetings,
that he intends to stand by his tax cut proposal and other planks in his
campaign agenda.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK.
If
this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as
I'm
the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Nothing new here--George has a demonstrated tendancy to stretch things a bit
when it comes to tarring Bush, just as he leans in the other direction to
defend his hero, the former occupant of the White House. It is therefore not
a bit surprising that he would trot out such a weak attempt at twisting
Bush's light humor into a serious statement. He is still in mourning over
the demise of Gore/Lieberman...er, or is that Gore/Dean...uhmmm, maybe
Dean/Gore?

Brooks


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

B2431 wrote:
From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 12/15/2003 5:57 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

Interesting how the left's true believers are incapable of coherent
debate, and must resort to personal insult. I bet Bush is significantly
brighter than most of these people.

A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:



Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.

CHRIS BLACK, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Frank, President- elect George
W.
Bush came to Capitol Hill today for the first time since the election
intending
to listen to congressional leaders, the bipartisan congressional leadership.
But
he also made it clear to them, in more than two and a half hours of meetings,
that he intends to stand by his tax cut proposal and other planks in his
campaign agenda.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK.
If
this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm
the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

If you think that quote was inaccurate, it's your turn to provide a verifiable
source. You didn't ask me to provide only verifiable sources I took
seriously....merely to provide a verifiable source, which I believe I did.
Whether or not I took it seriously has nothing to do with it.

You know the old saying, "be careful what you wish for, you may just get it".
Maybe you just didn't ask the right question.....but that'd be your problem, not
mine.

George Z.

From: "George Z. Bush" am

B2431 wrote:
From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 12/15/2003 5:57 PM Central Standard Time
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B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

snip
A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:

Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders
on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY
BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the
day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK.
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long
as
I'm the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

If you think that quote was inaccurate, it's your turn to provide a
verifiable
source. You didn't ask me to provide only verifiable sources I took
seriously....merely to provide a verifiable source, which I believe I did.
Whether or not I took it seriously has nothing to do with it.


I never said it was inaccurate. I simply implied it was probably intended to be
humourous.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

B2431 wrote:

If you think that quote was inaccurate, it's your turn to provide a
verifiable
source. You didn't ask me to provide only verifiable sources I took
seriously....merely to provide a verifiable source, which I believe I did.
Whether or not I took it seriously has nothing to do with it.



I never said it was inaccurate. I simply implied it was probably intended to be
humourous.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Implication is probably beyond his ability to grasp.

Allow me to be more specific. The statement WAS a jest, and it would
take a complete idiot to believe otherwise.

Mike

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B2431 wrote:
From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 12/15/2003 5:57 PM Central Standard Time
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B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

snip
A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:

Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders
on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY
BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the
day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK.
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long
as
I'm the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

If you think that quote was inaccurate, it's your turn to provide a
verifiable
source. You didn't ask me to provide only verifiable sources I took
seriously....merely to provide a verifiable source, which I believe I did.
Whether or not I took it seriously has nothing to do with it.


I never said it was inaccurate. I simply implied it was probably intended to
be
humourous.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

And I didn't say anything.....one way or the other, so I don't know what made
you think I took it seriously. It wouldn't have been that you didn't think that
anything existed at all by way of a cite and felt obliged to make light of it
when one turned up, would it? Nah, of course not! You were just making
funnies. Yeah....that must be it. Sure it was.


George Z.

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B2431 wrote:
From: "George Z. Bush" am
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B2431 wrote:
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In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

snip
A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush
said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:

Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional
Leaders
on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM
AND MAY
BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about
George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals,
it's the
day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned,
the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the
nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional
leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that
there
were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But
that's
OK.
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just
so long
as
I'm the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

If you think that quote was inaccurate, it's your turn to provide a
verifiable
source. You didn't ask me to provide only verifiable sources I took
seriously....merely to provide a verifiable source, which I believe I
did.
Whether or not I took it seriously has nothing to do with it.


I never said it was inaccurate. I simply implied it was probably
intended to
be
humourous.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

And I didn't say anything.....one way or the other, so I don't know what
made
you think I took it seriously. It wouldn't have been that you didn't
think that
anything existed at all by way of a cite and felt obliged to make light of
it
when one turned up, would it? Nah, of course not! You were just making
funnies. Yeah....that must be it. Sure it was.

One could doubtless find an example of some President making a humorous
reference to space aliens--that does not make it germane to the issue of
whether or not said President actually believes in space aliens. Face it,
Georgie--you were stretching for another opportunity to try and make Bush
look bad, or in this case someone who has the temerity to defend Bush's real
policies which are not reflected by such a humorous remark. You just
stretched too far (again). Kind of like your incorrect assertion recently
that Bush never volunteered for service overseas, which was also a bit of a
stretch to say the least, since he reportedly did volunteer for Palace Alert
duty (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/19...5no19_bush.htm).
Which was one hell of a lot more than your hero Clinton ever volunteered
for.

Brooks



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B2431 wrote:
From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 12/15/2003 5:57 PM Central Standard Time
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B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
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In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

snip
A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush
said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:

Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional
Leaders
on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM
AND MAY
BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about
George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals,
it's the
day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned,
the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the
nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional
leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that
there
were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But
that's
OK.
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just
so long
as
I'm the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, if you took that seriously you were probably the only one.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

If you think that quote was inaccurate, it's your turn to provide a
verifiable
source. You didn't ask me to provide only verifiable sources I took
seriously....merely to provide a verifiable source, which I believe I
did.
Whether or not I took it seriously has nothing to do with it.


I never said it was inaccurate. I simply implied it was probably
intended to
be
humourous.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

And I didn't say anything.....one way or the other, so I don't know what
made
you think I took it seriously. It wouldn't have been that you didn't
think that
anything existed at all by way of a cite and felt obliged to make light of
it
when one turned up, would it? Nah, of course not! You were just making
funnies. Yeah....that must be it. Sure it was.

One could doubtless find an example of some President making a humorous
reference to space aliens--that does not make it germane to the issue of
whether or not said President actually believes in space aliens. Face it,
Georgie--you were stretching for another opportunity to try and make Bush
look bad,.....

You sure do have a reading comprehension problem, don't you. Try to follow the
bouncing ball:
1. I was asked to provide a verifiable cite regarding a comment Bush was
supposed to make regarding being a dictator.
2. I provided the source that contained such a remark supposedly made by
him.
3. I was not asked to, nor did I certify that the remark was accurate, or
to describe the context in which it was made and I did NOT, in fact, make any
such certification or description.
4. Now, if you've followed it that far, then you need to pick a fight with
somebody else if that's what you're trying to do, because I had nothing else to
say during this exchange, one way or the other.
5. That's all there is.....I'm not stretching, or making any claims, or for
that matter, taking part in the exchange. All I did was to provide a cite for
the remark. If you think it was inaccurate, take it up with Newsday (since they
provided the CNN transcript).

Now, if you want to keep on arguing, find someone else with whom to take it up.
I provided a source for a comment.....that's all. If you want to pick nits,
pick them with someone who's in the argument, and that's not me. Got it?

(Chip on shoulder snipped for brevity)

George Z.

Humor. Not meant to be taken literally. Surely you knew that?!

Jarg

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B2431 wrote:
From:
Date: 12/15/2003 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
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In rec.food.cooking Jarg wrote:
Hhahahahahah "Texas Tard" Hahahahahah Did you think that one up
yourself?

Interesting how the left's true believers are incapable of coherent
debate,
and must resort to personal insult. I bet Bush is significantly
brighter
than most of these people.

A personal insult? It is a matter of historical fact that Bush said
the world would be a better place if he was dictator. That's not
an insult, its a simple fact.


Please cite a verifiable source.

Your wish is my command, courtesy of Google:



Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders
on
Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY
BE
UPDATED.

FRANK SESNO, CNN ANCHOR: In the nation's capital, it's all about George W.
Bush -- he's here and doing business -- while in state capitals, it's the
day
the Electoral College meets and votes. And if all goes as planned, the
electors
will certify Bush's narrow victory in last month's election.

He's already looking forward as he makes the rounds here in the nation's
capital. A key item on his agenda today: meeting congressional leaders.

CNN's Chris Black joins us from Capitol Hill with more now -- Chris.

CHRIS BLACK, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Frank, President- elect
George W.
Bush came to Capitol Hill today for the first time since the election
intending
to listen to congressional leaders, the bipartisan congressional
leadership. But
he also made it clear to them, in more than two and a half hours of
meetings,
that he intends to stand by his tax cut proposal and other planks in his
campaign agenda.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were
going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK. If
this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as
I'm
the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

George Z.





Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired