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Old September 1st 08, 10:05 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Oviedo
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yEnc is an encoding scheme, not a graphics format. It can be used
to post any type of binary. It's primary advantage is a reduction
in the as-posted size of a file by some 39% over the more common
Uuencode. It seems that the most often cited reason for universal
hatred of yEnc is that Outhouse Depressed doesn't support it, a
rather weak argument at best.

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same post in jpg
and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water. Maybe 3.9%, but no where
near 39%.


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Old September 1st 08, 10:16 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
HEMI-Powered[_2_]
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Oviedo added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same
post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water.
Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

You are entirely wrong. The spec for yEnc itself quotes the number,
I didn't, but since you're obviously so ignorant, try posting the
exact same JPEG with Uuencode and with yEnc and see for yourself.
The actual size of the binary doesn't change, of course, but almost
all of the Uue overhead is eliminated by yEnc resulting in a much
smaller as-posted size. Were it not for this fact, why would it
have been invented and why would so many people, all far more
knowledgeable then you, quote the same reduction?

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


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Old September 1st 08, 11:05 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Herman
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"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
...
Oviedo added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same
post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water.
Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

You are entirely wrong. The spec for yEnc itself quotes the number,
I didn't, but since you're obviously so ignorant, try posting the
exact same JPEG with Uuencode and with yEnc and see for yourself.
The actual size of the binary doesn't change, of course, but almost
all of the Uue overhead is eliminated by yEnc resulting in a much
smaller as-posted size. Were it not for this fact, why would it
have been invented and why would so many people, all far more
knowledgeable then you, quote the same reduction?

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


And why, oh utterly knowledgeable one, don't you get a decent provider and
connection, thus making all this stupid encoding completely redundant and
looking as backward as the 18th century?

Regards,
Herman


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Old September 1st 08, 11:12 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
HEMI-Powered[_4_]
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Herman added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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And why, oh utterly knowledgeable one, don't you get a decent
provider and connection, thus making all this stupid encoding
completely redundant and looking as backward as the 18th
century?

Lot more knowledgeable than you, but to answer your question, I
have a good provider and I also have a real news reader so the
entire yEnc debate is moot. now, go away, numbnuts, you bore me.

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


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Old September 2nd 08, 11:08 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Oviedo
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"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...
Oviedo added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same
post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water.
Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

You are entirely wrong. The spec for yEnc itself quotes the number,
I didn't, but since you're obviously so ignorant, try posting the
exact same JPEG with Uuencode and with yEnc and see for yourself.
The actual size of the binary doesn't change, of course, but almost
all of the Uue overhead is eliminated by yEnc resulting in a much
smaller as-posted size. Were it not for this fact, why would it
have been invented and why would so many people, all far more
knowledgeable then you, quote the same reduction?

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet



There was no need to call me ignorant.

If you would have bothered to read and comprehend my post, you would have
read that.I HAVE seen the EXACT post in jpg and yEnc and the savings was
insignificant.




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Old September 4th 08, 07:22 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Peter Hucker[_2_]
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:08:34 -0400, "Oviedo"
wrote:


"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
.. .
Oviedo added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same
post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water.
Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

You are entirely wrong. The spec for yEnc itself quotes the number,
I didn't, but since you're obviously so ignorant, try posting the
exact same JPEG with Uuencode and with yEnc and see for yourself.
The actual size of the binary doesn't change, of course, but almost
all of the Uue overhead is eliminated by yEnc resulting in a much
smaller as-posted size. Were it not for this fact, why would it
have been invented and why would so many people, all far more
knowledgeable then you, quote the same reduction?

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet



There was no need to call me ignorant.

If you would have bothered to read and comprehend my post, you would have
read that.I HAVE seen the EXACT post in jpg and yEnc and the savings was
insignificant.


And every time I and everyone else have compared them, it's 39%.
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Upon surveying the situation, he says quietly to himself, "Oh god, I'm ****ed."
There is a ray of light from heaven and a voice booms out: "No you are NOT ****ed.
Pick up that stone at your feet and bash in the head of the chief standing in front of you."
So the explorer picks up the stone and proceeds to bash the living **** out of the chief.
As he stands above the lifeless body, breathing heavily and surrounded by 100 natives with a look of shock on their faces, god's voice booms out again:
"Okay ..... NOW you're ****ed."
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Old September 1st 08, 10:50 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Herman
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"Oviedo" schreef in bericht
...
yEnc is an encoding scheme, not a graphics format. It can be used
to post any type of binary. It's primary advantage is a reduction
in the as-posted size of a file by some 39% over the more common
Uuencode. It seems that the most often cited reason for universal
hatred of yEnc is that Outhouse Depressed doesn't support it, a
rather weak argument at best.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same post in jpg
and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water. Maybe 3.9%, but no where
near 39%.

And besides: With todays connections (whispers: broadband), who needs these
stupid compression programs?
Just post your pictures as is, of course after getting a decent provider who
will offer you a broadband connection. To all you yEnc fans: wake up to the
21st century. You don't have to use dial-up connections anymore. I have
broadband. Next month I will be connected to a glass-fibre network that is
being installed in the whole town I live in, so my connection speed will be
even higher. Stop farting around with your stupid encoding end get a useful
provider.

Regards,
Herman


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Old September 1st 08, 11:10 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
HEMI-Powered[_4_]
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Herman added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....


"Oviedo" schreef in bericht
...
yEnc is an encoding scheme, not a graphics format. It can be
used to post any type of binary. It's primary advantage is a
reduction in the as-posted size of a file by some 39% over
the more common Uuencode. It seems that the most often cited
reason for universal hatred of yEnc is that Outhouse
Depressed doesn't support it, a rather weak argument at
best.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on
Usenet


Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the
same post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold
water. Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

And besides: With todays connections (whispers: broadband),
who needs these stupid compression programs?
Just post your pictures as is, of course after getting a
decent provider who will offer you a broadband connection. To
all you yEnc fans: wake up to the 21st century. You don't have
to use dial-up connections anymore. I have broadband. Next
month I will be connected to a glass-fibre network that is
being installed in the whole town I live in, so my connection
speed will be even higher. Stop farting around with your
stupid encoding end get a useful provider.

another stupid Luddite Outhouse Depressed owner speaketh. why
don't you just get a real news reader and you won't have to rail
against the users of yEnc any longer.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


 




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