Ren Yenc

JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at
least you can choose what you want to see.
Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud
mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol
You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a
clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing
else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying
whazzo if anyone looks at their posts.
They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of
the folks that would view them.
I agree a few dozen a day is best.
No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per
day would be great.
You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn
shame!

What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to
open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG
has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max
posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ
should be adopted to guide people.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet

"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
...
JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at
least you can choose what you want to see.
Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud
mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol
You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a
clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing
else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying
whazzo if anyone looks at their posts.
They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of
the folks that would view them.
I agree a few dozen a day is best.
No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per
day would be great.
You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn
shame!

What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to
open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG
has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max
posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ
should be adopted to guide people.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


True, you don't have to open every post.
But when some moron decides to flood the NG with 15,000 posts, at J3 did
recently, this is bound to cause problems. There are people active who post
in formats / numbers that most people do not appreciate. But they still go
ahead, just because they can. An enforceable FAQ is not neccessary when
people just apply some common sense and remember what mommy told them about
good manners.

Regards,
Herman

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:16:35 +0200, "Herman"
wrote:


"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
.. .
JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at
least you can choose what you want to see.
Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud
mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol
You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a
clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing
else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying
whazzo if anyone looks at their posts.
They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of
the folks that would view them.
I agree a few dozen a day is best.
No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per
day would be great.
You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn
shame!

What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to
open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG
has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max
posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ
should be adopted to guide people.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


True, you don't have to open every post.
But when some moron decides to flood the NG with 15,000 posts, at J3 did
recently, this is bound to cause problems. There are people active who post
in formats / numbers that most people do not appreciate. But they still go
ahead, just because they can. An enforceable FAQ is not neccessary when
people just apply some common sense and remember what mommy told them about
good manners.

If you want the whole flood, get it. If you don't, just look at a
few. We are not forcing you to read every post.
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

People who live in glass houses should **** in the basement.

Like this one?
That was agreed upon 2 years ago?


http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm

Maple1 wrote:

Like this one?
That was agreed upon 2 years ago?


http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm

Oh and for those of you that wont click on the link here it is




Please note 3,4,6,and 8 under Posting Guidelines




Overview

The objective of this Guide is provide posting and behavioral
guidelines within the
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION newsgroup (ABPA). It is NOT LAW.
Because this NG is self-moderated,users who ignore this Guide can
expect comments from other users. Serial defaulters may attract stronger
comments and/or be "kill filtered" or "Plonked" by regular users.
Therefore, if you wish your aviation pictures to be appreciated by
visitors, and regulars in this newsgroup, it is to your advantage to
follow these guidelines.


1.
The purpose of the ABPA is to share photos of aircraft,
information regarding aviation related events, stories about
aircraft that are featured in this Newsgroup and, above all, to
share our passion for aircraft with like-minded people
regardless of nationality, race or religion.

2.
The ABPA is entirely self moderated, and there is no formal
membership criteria, or governing board. Members are free
to come and go as they wish - to contribute, or not, is entirely
voluntary. No one should feel forced to contribute to the
group, and no one should feel intimidated by the group.

3.
Users of the ABPA are legally and personally responsible for any
images they post, particularly regarding copyright
issues and suitability. As many members of the group post images
that they have taken themselves, they do occasionally
get rather upset when others post their images either without
permission, or with copyright logos removed. All
photographers have their
own ideas regarding the usage of their images, and if in doubt
about the use of in image we request that you please ask
before either posting or reusing an original image.
4.
This Guide will be amended as the need arises. Suggestions for
any changes should be posted to the Newsgroup. Any
changes receiving general agreement following a discussion will
then be included.


Posting Guidelines

1.
Aviation Only.
The ABPA is dedicated to aviation orientated subjects. However,
there are no restrictions upon the specific types of
aircraft images that can be posted to the group. Given that non
aviation subjects frequently appear at air shows and in
museums, we ask that you use the following example of an
acceptable posting... That really cool looking restored tank
featured at the
annual air show is a credit to everyone involved. So in the
context of a series of 30 or more aviation related images
regarding an air show, with 2 or 3 featuring the really cool
tank are acceptable. On the other hand posting a series of 30
images of non aviation subjects at the air show with only 1 or 2
aircraft is not acceptable.

2.
NO Blatantly Obvious Pornography...
Posters are STRONGLY REQUESTED TO REFRAIN FROM POSTING OBVIOUSLY
pornographic images. A simple
nude standing in front of an airplane is one thing, seeing a
girl playing with her #$% is another. Images featuring nudes
in a non-pornographic way, and STILL IN THE CONTEXT OF AVIATION,
are acceptable and will be referred to as
Nude-Hangar Queens (or Kings).
Therefore, the group would appreciate the wording Nude-Hangar
Queen (or King) within the image's description. The
only exceptions to this would something like the nose art on say
a WWII bomber which can be a touch racy.

3.
No Multimedia or Multi-Part files....
As the name implies, this Newsgroup is for posting "Binaries
Pictures Aviation", that is, photos, and artworks relating
to aviation. Multimedia, video clips and sound files are not
welcome here, mainly due to bandwidth requirements. However
references to multimedia aviation related postings in the NG
alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation, and other newsgroups, or
on a website are acceptable in this Newsgroup. The reason
Multi-part attachments are discouraged is that some news
servers may lose a portion of the messages, and some news
readers are not able to assemble the parts properly.

4.
Image Size....
Many visitors and posters have slow dial-up internet connections
and/or are download limited, which makes it difficult to
view large attachments (400Kb plus). File sizes in the range 100
to 300Kb in JPEG format generally give adequate
resolution. If viewers would like a picture at higher resolution
they should check with the poster by email.

5.
Image Descriptions are strongly encouraged for ALL IMAGES.
Large numbers of files (plus 10) without a description of what
the image is, or index image displaying the images in the
series, is not considered an acceptable posting. If your
favorite aviation subject is civil airliners for example, few things
will match the frustration you feel when you unknowingly
download 30 images of some WWII warbirds. Granted the
logical thing to do is
grab a couple first, but if it was an event where both types of
aircraft are featured what then? For this reason the use of
one of the very popular freeware image index programs is
encouraged, failing that at the very least please include a
reasonable description of the image. This also has the added
advantage of making it easier to track comments made about
your images, and identifying a particular series of images to
the group.

6.
Large Floods of images...
Floods of images should be restricted to approx. 50 images per
day. We as a group would prefer to see them over several
days, rather than all at one time. Doing so, and keeping the
images to a size of about 300k, or less enables other posters
to post groups of images. Part of the reason for this is that
many local servers have a limited retention based upon size.
For example; if you post a flood of 300 or more images all in
the 500k range at 1:00am, and then at 10:00am someone
else does the same thing, and yet a third person posts at
10:00pm. On some of the smaller servers someone is either not
going to see their images posted until the next day, or possibly
have images bounced off of the NG. For people using
independent newsgroup servers this is not a problem, however for
many of the smaller servers it can be.

7.
NO Political, social, or religious discussions of ANY sort...
We all have our opinions regarding religion, social issues, and
politics. However given the strong emotions that these
types of discussion frequent cause IT IS STRONGLY preferred that
members DO NOT engage in these types of debates
with the newsgroup ABPA. Besides if you check the title of this
Newsgroup there is not a mention of politics, social
issues, or religion within it. Wishing someone a well meaning
nationalistic or religious message such as Happy 4th of
July, Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah etc. is however considered
acceptable...

8.
YENC - is NOT Acceptable.
Yenc encoding is not yet standardized, so there are different
versions in use and many news readers do not recognize any
of them. The same applies to any other non-standard posting
formats. To avoid upset, please use only the standard
UU-Encoding when posting your pictures. Besides, if you are
looking for discussion, or conversation regarding an image,
you are far more likely obtain it with a standard format
posting, rather than a non-standard one. To
be fair about it, if Yenc or some other method does become a
recognized standard then this will quickly be amended.


9.
No HTML within postings...
The Usenet service (newsgroups) has traditionally been
text-based, and most dedicated news readers still are. However,
since Outlook Express and the major browsers have been able to
access newsgroups, and their format of choice is HTML,
many users are posting to the newsgroups in HTML format.
Unfortunately, this means that all the cool looking fancy
backgrounds, special characters, bold or multi-colored fonts,
inserted lines or other effects appear as dozens of lines of
seemingly unintelligible characters interspaced with a few lines
of text to those who still use text-based readers. As a
courtesy to these people it is suggested that you refrain from
posting in HTML if possible.


10.
NO Inflammatory Remarks (Flaming)
Deliberately making derogatory or inflammatory remarks (often
referred to as "flaming") about people posting to the
ABPA, and/or any aspect of their postings, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

This does NOT include comments such as:

(a) Constructive criticisms or suggestions as to how to improve
someone's images (however, saying a person's posting is
nothing but crap is not acceptable),

(b) Corrections to miss-identification of aircraft, pilots etc...

(c) Corrections to obviously innocent mistakes.

Harsh, or insulting criticism about simple mistakes, or a
less-than professional picture, when not deserved, can be
particularly disturbing to newbies who may never return to the
Group. Let us try to maintain the friendly atmosphere that
has been established in ABPA over many years.

11.
When responding to a LONG posting....
It is requested that you restrict the reposted text to only
those parts that are pertinent to your response. Reposting an
entire message when responding to a long posting not only
clutters the system up but is also a discourtesy to those trying
to read your contribution. We all make this mistake now and
again, however if, and when you do, please don't be offended if you
receive a GENTLE Chastisement from the other members of the group.


Conclusion...


Newbies to the group are encouraged to "lurk" for a few days
BEFORE posting images... Doing this will help you get a
feel for how the group operates, and what is considered
acceptable behavior. Above all else though if you have a question,
or are unsure about an issue PLEASE ASK!!! You will find that
most members of the group are reasonably friendly, and very eager to
help new posters.

None of these rules are chiseled in stone, and there will always
be exceptions. This guide intended to be just a guide and
nothing more.. The group at large asks that the spirit of this
text be adhered to. This Guide is applicable ONLY TO THE
NEWSGROUP alt.binaries.aviation.pictures, other newsgroups may
OR MAY NOT have similar guidelines.


Above all else we encourage everyone who enjoys the subject of
aviation to participate, and use the guide to everyone's
advantage.


Thank you,

The participants of the newsgroup
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION....


Questions or comments about this
guide should be submitted to the newsgroup
Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Aviation

Maple1 added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

I've been monitoring this NG for years and this is the very first
time I've seen this. Why are you hiding it?

Overview

The objective of this Guide is provide posting and
behavioral
guidelines within the
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION newsgroup (ABPA). It is
NOT LAW.
Because this NG is self-moderated,users who ignore this
Guide can
expect comments from other users. Serial defaulters may
attract stronger comments and/or be "kill filtered" or
"Plonked" by regular users. Therefore, if you wish your
aviation pictures to be appreciated by visitors, and regulars
in this newsgroup, it is to your advantage to follow these
guidelines.


1.
The purpose of the ABPA is to share photos of
aircraft,
information regarding aviation related events, stories about
aircraft that are featured in this Newsgroup and,
above all, to
share our passion for aircraft with like-minded people
regardless of nationality, race or religion.

2.
The ABPA is entirely self moderated, and there is no
formal
membership criteria, or governing board. Members are free
to come and go as they wish - to contribute, or not,
is entirely
voluntary. No one should feel forced to contribute to the
group, and no one should feel intimidated by the
group.

3.
Users of the ABPA are legally and personally
responsible for any
images they post, particularly regarding copyright
issues and suitability. As many members of the group
post images
that they have taken themselves, they do occasionally
get rather upset when others post their images either
without
permission, or with copyright logos removed. All
photographers have their
own ideas regarding the usage of their images, and if
in doubt
about the use of in image we request that you please ask
before either posting or reusing an original image.
4.
This Guide will be amended as the need arises.
Suggestions for
any changes should be posted to the Newsgroup. Any
changes receiving general agreement following a
discussion will
then be included.


Posting Guidelines

1.
Aviation Only.
The ABPA is dedicated to aviation orientated subjects.
However,
there are no restrictions upon the specific types of
aircraft images that can be posted to the group. Given
that non
aviation subjects frequently appear at air shows and in
museums, we ask that you use the following example of
an
acceptable posting... That really cool looking restored tank
featured at the
annual air show is a credit to everyone involved. So
in the
context of a series of 30 or more aviation related images
regarding an air show, with 2 or 3 featuring the
really cool
tank are acceptable. On the other hand posting a series of 30
images of non aviation subjects at the air show with
only 1 or 2
aircraft is not acceptable.

2.
NO Blatantly Obvious Pornography...
Posters are STRONGLY REQUESTED TO REFRAIN FROM POSTING
OBVIOUSLY
pornographic images. A simple
nude standing in front of an airplane is one thing,
seeing a
girl playing with her #$% is another. Images featuring nudes
in a non-pornographic way, and STILL IN THE CONTEXT OF
AVIATION,
are acceptable and will be referred to as
Nude-Hangar Queens (or Kings).
Therefore, the group would appreciate the wording
Nude-Hangar
Queen (or King) within the image's description. The
only exceptions to this would something like the nose
art on say
a WWII bomber which can be a touch racy.

3.
No Multimedia or Multi-Part files....
As the name implies, this Newsgroup is for posting
"Binaries
Pictures Aviation", that is, photos, and artworks relating
to aviation. Multimedia, video clips and sound files
are not
welcome here, mainly due to bandwidth requirements. However
references to multimedia aviation related postings in
the NG
alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation, and other newsgroups, or
on a website are acceptable in this Newsgroup. The
reason
Multi-part attachments are discouraged is that some news
servers may lose a portion of the messages, and some
news
readers are not able to assemble the parts properly.

4.
Image Size....
Many visitors and posters have slow dial-up internet
connections
and/or are download limited, which makes it difficult to
view large attachments (400Kb plus). File sizes in the
range 100
to 300Kb in JPEG format generally give adequate
resolution. If viewers would like a picture at higher
resolution
they should check with the poster by email.

5.
Image Descriptions are strongly encouraged for ALL
IMAGES. Large numbers of files (plus 10) without a
description of what
the image is, or index image displaying the images in the
series, is not considered an acceptable posting. If
your
favorite aviation subject is civil airliners for example, few
things
will match the frustration you feel when you
unknowingly
download 30 images of some WWII warbirds. Granted the
logical thing to do is
grab a couple first, but if it was an event where both
types of
aircraft are featured what then? For this reason the use of
one of the very popular freeware image index programs
is
encouraged, failing that at the very least please include a
reasonable description of the image. This also has the
added
advantage of making it easier to track comments made about
your images, and identifying a particular series of
images to
the group.

6.
Large Floods of images...
Floods of images should be restricted to approx. 50
images per
day. We as a group would prefer to see them over several
days, rather than all at one time. Doing so, and
keeping the
images to a size of about 300k, or less enables other posters
to post groups of images. Part of the reason for this
is that
many local servers have a limited retention based upon size.
For example; if you post a flood of 300 or more images
all in
the 500k range at 1:00am, and then at 10:00am someone
else does the same thing, and yet a third person posts
at
10:00pm. On some of the smaller servers someone is either not
going to see their images posted until the next day,
or possibly
have images bounced off of the NG. For people using
independent newsgroup servers this is not a problem,
however for
many of the smaller servers it can be.

7.
NO Political, social, or religious discussions of ANY
sort... We all have our opinions regarding religion,
social issues, and
politics. However given the strong emotions that these
types of discussion frequent cause IT IS STRONGLY
preferred that
members DO NOT engage in these types of debates
with the newsgroup ABPA. Besides if you check the
title of this
Newsgroup there is not a mention of politics, social
issues, or religion within it. Wishing someone a well
meaning
nationalistic or religious message such as Happy 4th of
July, Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah etc. is however
considered
acceptable...

8.
YENC - is NOT Acceptable.
Yenc encoding is not yet standardized, so there are
different
versions in use and many news readers do not recognize any
of them. The same applies to any other non-standard
posting
formats. To avoid upset, please use only the standard
UU-Encoding when posting your pictures. Besides, if
you are
looking for discussion, or conversation regarding an image,
you are far more likely obtain it with a standard
format
posting, rather than a non-standard one. To
be fair about it, if Yenc or some other method does
become a
recognized standard then this will quickly be amended.


9.
No HTML within postings...
The Usenet service (newsgroups) has traditionally been
text-based, and most dedicated news readers still are.
However,
since Outlook Express and the major browsers have been
able to
access newsgroups, and their format of choice is HTML,
many users are posting to the newsgroups in HTML
format.
Unfortunately, this means that all the cool looking fancy
backgrounds, special characters, bold or multi-colored
fonts,
inserted lines or other effects appear as dozens of lines of
seemingly unintelligible characters interspaced with a
few lines
of text to those who still use text-based readers. As a
courtesy to these people it is suggested that you
refrain from
posting in HTML if possible.


10.
NO Inflammatory Remarks (Flaming)
Deliberately making derogatory or inflammatory remarks
(often
referred to as "flaming") about people posting to the
ABPA, and/or any aspect of their postings, WILL NOT BE
TOLERATED.

This does NOT include comments such as:

(a) Constructive criticisms or suggestions as to how
to improve
someone's images (however, saying a person's posting is
nothing but crap is not acceptable),

(b) Corrections to miss-identification of aircraft,
pilots etc...

(c) Corrections to obviously innocent mistakes.

Harsh, or insulting criticism about simple mistakes,
or a
less-than professional picture, when not deserved, can be
particularly disturbing to newbies who may never
return to the
Group. Let us try to maintain the friendly atmosphere that
has been established in ABPA over many years.

11.
When responding to a LONG posting....
It is requested that you restrict the reposted text to
only
those parts that are pertinent to your response. Reposting an
entire message when responding to a long posting not
only
clutters the system up but is also a discourtesy to those
trying
to read your contribution. We all make this mistake
now and
again, however if, and when you do, please don't be offended
if you receive a GENTLE Chastisement from the other members of
the group.


Conclusion...


Newbies to the group are encouraged to "lurk" for a
few days
BEFORE posting images... Doing this will help you get a
feel for how the group operates, and what is
considered
acceptable behavior. Above all else though if you have a
question,
or are unsure about an issue PLEASE ASK!!! You will
find that
most members of the group are reasonably friendly, and very
eager to help new posters.

None of these rules are chiseled in stone, and there
will always
be exceptions. This guide intended to be just a guide and
nothing more.. The group at large asks that the spirit
of this
text be adhered to. This Guide is applicable ONLY TO THE
NEWSGROUP alt.binaries.aviation.pictures, other
newsgroups may
OR MAY NOT have similar guidelines.


Above all else we encourage everyone who enjoys the
subject of
aviation to participate, and use the guide to everyone's
advantage.


Thank you,

The participants of the newsgroup
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION....


Questions or comments about this
guide should be submitted to the newsgroup
Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Aviation




--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet

Maple1 added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

Maple1 wrote:

Like this one?
That was agreed upon 2 years ago?


http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm

Oh and for those of you that wont click on the link here it is




Please note 3,4,6,and 8 under Posting Guidelines

Forgot to mention: are posting huge multi-part RAR/PAR files
acceptable? Doesn't seem so yet that's been going on for days.


Overview

The objective of this Guide is provide posting and
behavioral
guidelines within the
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION newsgroup (ABPA). It is
NOT LAW.
Because this NG is self-moderated,users who ignore this
Guide can
expect comments from other users. Serial defaulters may
attract stronger comments and/or be "kill filtered" or
"Plonked" by regular users. Therefore, if you wish your
aviation pictures to be appreciated by visitors, and regulars
in this newsgroup, it is to your advantage to follow these
guidelines.


1.
The purpose of the ABPA is to share photos of
aircraft,
information regarding aviation related events, stories about
aircraft that are featured in this Newsgroup and,
above all, to
share our passion for aircraft with like-minded people
regardless of nationality, race or religion.

2.
The ABPA is entirely self moderated, and there is no
formal
membership criteria, or governing board. Members are free
to come and go as they wish - to contribute, or not,
is entirely
voluntary. No one should feel forced to contribute to the
group, and no one should feel intimidated by the
group.

3.
Users of the ABPA are legally and personally
responsible for any
images they post, particularly regarding copyright
issues and suitability. As many members of the group
post images
that they have taken themselves, they do occasionally
get rather upset when others post their images either
without
permission, or with copyright logos removed. All
photographers have their
own ideas regarding the usage of their images, and if
in doubt
about the use of in image we request that you please ask
before either posting or reusing an original image.
4.
This Guide will be amended as the need arises.
Suggestions for
any changes should be posted to the Newsgroup. Any
changes receiving general agreement following a
discussion will
then be included.


Posting Guidelines

1.
Aviation Only.
The ABPA is dedicated to aviation orientated subjects.
However,
there are no restrictions upon the specific types of
aircraft images that can be posted to the group. Given
that non
aviation subjects frequently appear at air shows and in
museums, we ask that you use the following example of
an
acceptable posting... That really cool looking restored tank
featured at the
annual air show is a credit to everyone involved. So
in the
context of a series of 30 or more aviation related images
regarding an air show, with 2 or 3 featuring the
really cool
tank are acceptable. On the other hand posting a series of 30
images of non aviation subjects at the air show with
only 1 or 2
aircraft is not acceptable.

2.
NO Blatantly Obvious Pornography...
Posters are STRONGLY REQUESTED TO REFRAIN FROM POSTING
OBVIOUSLY
pornographic images. A simple
nude standing in front of an airplane is one thing,
seeing a
girl playing with her #$% is another. Images featuring nudes
in a non-pornographic way, and STILL IN THE CONTEXT OF
AVIATION,
are acceptable and will be referred to as
Nude-Hangar Queens (or Kings).
Therefore, the group would appreciate the wording
Nude-Hangar
Queen (or King) within the image's description. The
only exceptions to this would something like the nose
art on say
a WWII bomber which can be a touch racy.

3.
No Multimedia or Multi-Part files....
As the name implies, this Newsgroup is for posting
"Binaries
Pictures Aviation", that is, photos, and artworks relating
to aviation. Multimedia, video clips and sound files
are not
welcome here, mainly due to bandwidth requirements. However
references to multimedia aviation related postings in
the NG
alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation, and other newsgroups, or
on a website are acceptable in this Newsgroup. The
reason
Multi-part attachments are discouraged is that some news
servers may lose a portion of the messages, and some
news
readers are not able to assemble the parts properly.

4.
Image Size....
Many visitors and posters have slow dial-up internet
connections
and/or are download limited, which makes it difficult to
view large attachments (400Kb plus). File sizes in the
range 100
to 300Kb in JPEG format generally give adequate
resolution. If viewers would like a picture at higher
resolution
they should check with the poster by email.

5.
Image Descriptions are strongly encouraged for ALL
IMAGES. Large numbers of files (plus 10) without a
description of what
the image is, or index image displaying the images in the
series, is not considered an acceptable posting. If
your
favorite aviation subject is civil airliners for example, few
things
will match the frustration you feel when you
unknowingly
download 30 images of some WWII warbirds. Granted the
logical thing to do is
grab a couple first, but if it was an event where both
types of
aircraft are featured what then? For this reason the use of
one of the very popular freeware image index programs
is
encouraged, failing that at the very least please include a
reasonable description of the image. This also has the
added
advantage of making it easier to track comments made about
your images, and identifying a particular series of
images to
the group.

6.
Large Floods of images...
Floods of images should be restricted to approx. 50
images per
day. We as a group would prefer to see them over several
days, rather than all at one time. Doing so, and
keeping the
images to a size of about 300k, or less enables other posters
to post groups of images. Part of the reason for this
is that
many local servers have a limited retention based upon size.
For example; if you post a flood of 300 or more images
all in
the 500k range at 1:00am, and then at 10:00am someone
else does the same thing, and yet a third person posts
at
10:00pm. On some of the smaller servers someone is either not
going to see their images posted until the next day,
or possibly
have images bounced off of the NG. For people using
independent newsgroup servers this is not a problem,
however for
many of the smaller servers it can be.

7.
NO Political, social, or religious discussions of ANY
sort... We all have our opinions regarding religion,
social issues, and
politics. However given the strong emotions that these
types of discussion frequent cause IT IS STRONGLY
preferred that
members DO NOT engage in these types of debates
with the newsgroup ABPA. Besides if you check the
title of this
Newsgroup there is not a mention of politics, social
issues, or religion within it. Wishing someone a well
meaning
nationalistic or religious message such as Happy 4th of
July, Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah etc. is however
considered
acceptable...

8.
YENC - is NOT Acceptable.
Yenc encoding is not yet standardized, so there are
different
versions in use and many news readers do not recognize any
of them. The same applies to any other non-standard
posting
formats. To avoid upset, please use only the standard
UU-Encoding when posting your pictures. Besides, if
you are
looking for discussion, or conversation regarding an image,
you are far more likely obtain it with a standard
format
posting, rather than a non-standard one. To
be fair about it, if Yenc or some other method does
become a
recognized standard then this will quickly be amended.


9.
No HTML within postings...
The Usenet service (newsgroups) has traditionally been
text-based, and most dedicated news readers still are.
However,
since Outlook Express and the major browsers have been
able to
access newsgroups, and their format of choice is HTML,
many users are posting to the newsgroups in HTML
format.
Unfortunately, this means that all the cool looking fancy
backgrounds, special characters, bold or multi-colored
fonts,
inserted lines or other effects appear as dozens of lines of
seemingly unintelligible characters interspaced with a
few lines
of text to those who still use text-based readers. As a
courtesy to these people it is suggested that you
refrain from
posting in HTML if possible.


10.
NO Inflammatory Remarks (Flaming)
Deliberately making derogatory or inflammatory remarks
(often
referred to as "flaming") about people posting to the
ABPA, and/or any aspect of their postings, WILL NOT BE
TOLERATED.

This does NOT include comments such as:

(a) Constructive criticisms or suggestions as to how
to improve
someone's images (however, saying a person's posting is
nothing but crap is not acceptable),

(b) Corrections to miss-identification of aircraft,
pilots etc...

(c) Corrections to obviously innocent mistakes.

Harsh, or insulting criticism about simple mistakes,
or a
less-than professional picture, when not deserved, can be
particularly disturbing to newbies who may never
return to the
Group. Let us try to maintain the friendly atmosphere that
has been established in ABPA over many years.

11.
When responding to a LONG posting....
It is requested that you restrict the reposted text to
only
those parts that are pertinent to your response. Reposting an
entire message when responding to a long posting not
only
clutters the system up but is also a discourtesy to those
trying
to read your contribution. We all make this mistake
now and
again, however if, and when you do, please don't be offended
if you receive a GENTLE Chastisement from the other members of
the group.


Conclusion...


Newbies to the group are encouraged to "lurk" for a
few days
BEFORE posting images... Doing this will help you get a
feel for how the group operates, and what is
considered
acceptable behavior. Above all else though if you have a
question,
or are unsure about an issue PLEASE ASK!!! You will
find that
most members of the group are reasonably friendly, and very
eager to help new posters.

None of these rules are chiseled in stone, and there
will always
be exceptions. This guide intended to be just a guide and
nothing more.. The group at large asks that the spirit
of this
text be adhered to. This Guide is applicable ONLY TO THE
NEWSGROUP alt.binaries.aviation.pictures, other
newsgroups may
OR MAY NOT have similar guidelines.


Above all else we encourage everyone who enjoys the
subject of
aviation to participate, and use the guide to everyone's
advantage.


Thank you,

The participants of the newsgroup
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION....


Questions or comments about this
guide should be submitted to the newsgroup
Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Aviation



--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet

No Multimedia or Multi-Part files...

What part of Multi part did you miss in rule 3

And if you have been here for years you would remember Andrew who worked
VERY hard to get this done.




HEMI-Powered wrote:



Forgot to mention: are posting huge multi-part RAR/PAR files
acceptable? Doesn't seem so yet that's been going on for days.

Maple1 added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

No Multimedia or Multi-Part files...

What part of Multi part did you miss in rule 3

And if you have been here for years you would remember Andrew
who worked VERY hard to get this done.

The part I missed was that nobody has done anything about the
alleged flooder. As for Andrew, he has shown himself to be a
bigot and a fool.

If you people want to have order around here, you need to publish
your FAQs/posting guidelines often and take agressive action
against violators. You also need to partially rewrite the
document so that the most important items, such as max posts/day,
no yEnc, no multi-part files, etc. are up front where they are
easy to see. As it is, the document meanders around and the
salient points are buried in long paragraphs.

Now, as to flooding, if the group wants only 50/day or less, I
guess that's OK. I don't have any aircraft pictures so it doesn't
affect me. But, it reminds me of a couple of other NGs I monitor
that seem to be living in the past before there was broadband
because they have very restrictive file size limits - both KB and
pixels and the same 50 limit. Who cares how many posts/day are
made? No one is forced to download them all or any at all, that's
what freedom of choice is all about.

And again, this is the first time I've ever seen this document. I
don't follow links in anybody's posts because it's too dangerous
so if you're posting the FAQs that way, it explains why I haven't
seen them before. Plus, I'd wager that the people you guys don't
seem to like haven't seen it, either.

Forgot to mention: are posting huge multi-part RAR/PAR files
acceptable? Doesn't seem so yet that's been going on for
days.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:43:08 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Maple1 added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

No Multimedia or Multi-Part files...

What part of Multi part did you miss in rule 3

And if you have been here for years you would remember Andrew
who worked VERY hard to get this done.

The part I missed was that nobody has done anything about the
alleged flooder. As for Andrew, he has shown himself to be a
bigot and a fool.

If you people want to have order around here, you need to publish
your FAQs/posting guidelines often and take agressive action
against violators.

What are you going to do, send them to jail?!?
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

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