Amphibious Planes

On Sep 1, 2:36*pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?

Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are
begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water
(boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this
mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc
spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea
plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug
problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy
gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol.

-Robert

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:36=A0pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?

Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are
begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water
(boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this
mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc
spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea
plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug
problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy
gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol.

-Robert

The proliferation of jet skis has one positive side. Many marinas now
sell premium gas which is usually ethanol free. My plane is an
amphibian so I usually just buy 100LL at an airport. Saves the hassle
of checking every time.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:23:47 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

The proliferation of jet skis has one positive side. Many marinas now
sell premium gas which is usually ethanol free. My plane is an
amphibian so I usually just buy 100LL at an airport. Saves the hassle
of checking every time.

Drew, are you more concerned with contamination at a boat dock mogas
facility than at the airport? I would although I am not sure I can
justify why.

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:51:25 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:23:47 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

The proliferation of jet skis has one positive side. Many marinas now
sell premium gas which is usually ethanol free. My plane is an
amphibian so I usually just buy 100LL at an airport. Saves the hassle
of checking every time.

Drew, are you more concerned with contamination at a boat dock mogas
facility than at the airport? I would although I am not sure I can
justify why.

No I think there's nothing wrong with buying gas at a marina if it's
ethanol free. I have had trouble getting to the pumps at marinas for
some reason they think it's neccessary to put lampposts and mast
hoists right where I want my wing.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:31:15 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:51:25 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:23:47 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

The proliferation of jet skis has one positive side. Many marinas now
sell premium gas which is usually ethanol free. My plane is an
amphibian so I usually just buy 100LL at an airport. Saves the hassle
of checking every time.

Drew, are you more concerned with contamination at a boat dock mogas
facility than at the airport? I would although I am not sure I can
justify why.

No I think there's nothing wrong with buying gas at a marina if it's
ethanol free. I have had trouble getting to the pumps at marinas for
some reason they think it's neccessary to put lampposts and mast
hoists right where I want my wing.

lol

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT), Robert M. Gary wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:36*pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?

Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are
begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water
(boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this
mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc
spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea
plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug
problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy
gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol.

-Robert

The gas thing is a for sure, I wasn't aware of the mussels issue (FL not
sure we have one). Is it some kind of disease Xport?

On Sep 2, 1:49*pm, Gezellig wrote:


The gas thing is a for sure, I wasn't aware of the mussels issue (FL not
sure we have one). Is it some kind of disease Xport?

Right now its a major issue in California. Apparently some mussels are
spreading across the South and have now taken up in SoCal. Many in
central/northern California are very worried about it. Some lakes just
have signs about avoiding certain lakes and not putting your boat in a
strange lake unless its been out of the water for 30 days. Some
places, like Clearlake, have made it a criminal offense to put
anything in the water that has not been issued an official seal by an
inspector.

http://www.co.lake.ca.us/Government/...Prevention.htm

-Robert

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT), Robert M. Gary wrote:

Right now its a major issue in California. Apparently some mussels are
spreading across the South and have now taken up in SoCal. Many in
central/northern California are very worried about it. Some lakes just
have signs about avoiding certain lakes and not putting your boat in a
strange lake unless its been out of the water for 30 days. Some
places, like Clearlake, have made it a criminal offense to put
anything in the water that has not been issued an official seal by an
inspector.

http://www.co.lake.ca.us/Government/...Prevention.htm

-Robert

http://www.gma.org/surfing/human/zebra.html

Now I understand, gruesome buggers, aren't they?

"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT), Robert M. Gary wrote:

Right now its a major issue in California. Apparently some mussels are
spreading across the South and have now taken up in SoCal. Many in
central/northern California are very worried about it. Some lakes just
have signs about avoiding certain lakes and not putting your boat in a
strange lake unless its been out of the water for 30 days. Some
places, like Clearlake, have made it a criminal offense to put
anything in the water that has not been issued an official seal by an
inspector.

http://www.co.lake.ca.us/Government/...Prevention.htm

-Robert

http://www.gma.org/surfing/human/zebra.html

Now I understand, gruesome buggers, aren't they?

Hmmmm. More and more, when I read these sorts on things, I wonder...
did we, or the europeans, outlaw a method of control for "environmental"
reasons?

Just a little more food for thought.

Peter

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:39:05 -0400, Bryan Martin wrote:

The Great Lakes have a big problem with zebra mussels, a salt water
species that were imported in ballast water from seagoing freighters.
They have thrived in the big lakes and have been spreading into more and
more inland lakes.

The effect being...?