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Old September 3rd 08, 05:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.owning Mxsmanic wrote:
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Both driving and flying under the influence of alcohol are illegal.


But being a drinker or smoker is not. You can drink and smoke regularly (both
of which vastly increase the likelihood of problems that may incapacitate you
in the air), and the FAA doesn't care, as long as you don't drink in the eight
hours before flying (and there's no prohibition on smoking at all, so
conceivably you could smoke in the cockpit).


Babbling nonsense.

If the smoking or drinking were to eventually cause a problem that could
become incapacitating, and that takes lots of years, the problem would
would be cause to fail the medical.

And yet, at the same time, if you've ever had, say, a bad headache, the FAA
can deny your medical.


More babbling nonsense.

You have no clue what the standards are.

There is no correlation between smoking and accident rates for either
driving or flying.


Smoking significantly increases the risk of incapacitating cardiovascular or
respiratory problems. It also increases the risk of altitude-related problems
that may be incapacitating.


More babbling nonsense.

If one develops cardiovascular or respiratory problems, they fail the
medical because they have cardiovascular or respiratory problems, not
because they smoke.

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Old September 4th 08, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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As for smoking, that is utter, pulled out of your ass, nonsense.


Not when the air is thin.
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Old September 4th 08, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 4, 1:25*pm, wrote:
In rec.aviation.owning Mxsmanic wrote:

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As for smoking, that is utter, pulled out of your ass, nonsense.


Not when the air is thin.


More ignorant nonsense; if it were true about half the population of Peru
would be incapacitated.

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Your knowledge of this subject is so seriously limited that you really
need to drop out of the discussion before you make yourself look
really stupid. The people of Peru who live at high altitudes have
become acclimated to the altitude and are not as subject to altitude
sickness as those who live at lower altitudes. Smoking has the direct
effect of diminishing the ability of the lungs to absorb oxygen which
becomes especially critical at higher altitudes. Smokers who are not
acclimated to the altitude and who take off from lower altitudes and
asscend to altitude can easily become oxygen starved resulting in
numerous possible medical problems.

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Old September 5th 08, 04:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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More ignorant nonsense; if it were true about half the population of Peru
would be incapacitated.


Above a certain altitude, the population _is_ at least partially
incapacitated.
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Old September 5th 08, 06:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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If the smoking or drinking were to eventually cause a problem that could
become incapacitating, and that takes lots of years, the problem would
would be cause to fail the medical.


Both can be immediately incapacitating.


Show me one example from here
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp

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