Flyboys?

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


I'll merely state that not once in my 26 years in the military
have I ever heard anyone call anyone a 'flyboy' with other than
derision in mind. Not once. Derision only. Sorry.

-Gord.

I take it that after we delete the unnecessary and unfortunately
predictable
vitriol, we have an opposing opinion here.

Vitriol?...God, you've lived a very sheltered life haven't
you?...

Not really, but fairly well educated...at least enough to know that
vitriol
is defined as sharp or caustic speech or writing, such as your opening
lines
to me below....you know, the stuff you "didn't include in your quote
pickup
here :-)

I find it amazing that you could say that, Of course you've
amazed me before so I shouldn't be surprised I guess. I suppose I
shouldn't knock your misinterpetation here because you're
speaking from almost zero experience aren't you?. That shouldn't
surprise me by now either I guess.

Yup! That's vitriol, sheltered or unsheltered. :-)


"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques



Oh God!!...my ribs!...my ribs!!

I would have given a lot to have been a fly on your wall when you
saw your error here!

(I suppose you'll say that you included that on purpose?) sigh

You really should cut your losses and quit this before you make
any more of a fool of yourself dud old chappie

-Gord.

I'm changing my mind about you Beamon. You actually might be this stupid.
That was no error. I've decided that I'm going to include this in every post
I answer from you just to illustrate to you how totally idiotic and stupid
you actually are by posting it yourself.
Let me clue you in on something old buddy. The quote is correct. You made a
mistake when you barged in on the seizure thread ranting on about power. You
completely forgot the rpm limiter didn't you? Hell Beamon, I know you know
about propellers. The problem is simply that you're an ass hole. You
couldn't resist trying to nail me, and you were totally wrong. The statement
stands. In fact, it stands scrutiny so well that I have no problem at all
using it as my own signature on any post I answer from you.
Here, take a good look below. It's no mistake. I'll discuss this quote with
anyone who cares to discuss it......even you Beamon.
Here's your "mistake";
DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo? Do me a favor. Go read up on constant speed prop governor
rpm limiters for the 24D50 Hamilton ; then come back and I'll give you
another lesson; or post your usual personal attack tripe that skirts an
issue entirely. :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right! :-) Go back to school Gordo, then perhaps after you
stop all this useless bull ****, we can talk again sometime.
Take care up there. Dress warm!
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right!

snort Of course I have... beating you isn't any great shakes
after all...
--

-Gord.

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right!

snort Of course I have... beating you isn't any great shakes
after all...
--

-Gord.

You just never learn do you? It's not about "beating" anyone Gordo. It's
about dialog and discourse. Try it sometime :-)
:-)
DH

"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right!

snort Of course I have... beating you isn't any great shakes
after all...
--

-Gord.

You just never learn do you? It's not about "beating" anyone Gordo. It's
about dialog and discourse. Try it sometime :-)
:-)
DH


Whatever you say dude...
--

-Gord.

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right!

snort Of course I have... beating you isn't any great shakes
after all...
--

-Gord.

You just never learn do you? It's not about "beating" anyone Gordo. It's
about dialog and discourse. Try it sometime :-)
:-)
DH


Whatever you say dude...
--

-Gord.

I say props Gordo.......let's talk PROPS!!! :-)
DH

Subject: Flyboys?
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 12/17/03 9:17 PM Pacific Standard Time
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"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right!

snort Of course I have... beating you isn't any great shakes
after all...
--

-Gord.

You just never learn do you? It's not about "beating" anyone Gordo. It's
about dialog and discourse. Try it sometime :-)
:-)
DH




I think he may be discussing an engine pulling 61" of mercury at a constant
speed of zero RPM. (guffaw)



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Flyboys?
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 12/17/03 9:17 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: et


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

How's that Gordo?

sigh I believe that I'm done with you henry...enough is enough.
Good night.
--

-Gord.

You're done all right!

snort Of course I have... beating you isn't any great shakes
after all...
--

-Gord.

You just never learn do you? It's not about "beating" anyone Gordo. It's
about dialog and discourse. Try it sometime :-)
:-)
DH




I think he may be discussing an engine pulling 61" of mercury at a
constant
speed of zero RPM. (guffaw)

It's a shame really. I don't want to fight with this guy. I've tried
ignoring him. I've tried friendly engagement. I've tried every way I know to
either make friends with him or get rid of him. He just keeps coming
on...again and again. I never post to him. It's always him posting under me,
changing the subject into some personal attack thing. I wish I knew what his
problem is but I don't.
This kind of thing happens all the time on Usenet. You somehow pick up one
of these people who think it's about keeping score. He goes one down and
becomes a heated enemy for the next thousand years or so.
Oh well, perhaps he'll get tired of doing it. Ford tried reassigning the
thread. Maybe that will work. I'll try my best not to respond to him any
more than I have to. Maybe that will help a bit as well.
We'll see!! :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

On 18 Dec 2003 16:38:47 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

DUDLEY HENRIQUES SAID ;

"Bull ****! This is a constant speed prop. RPM is a
set value. The RPM can be set at 3000 and the
manifold pressure can be anywhere between 15 inches
and 61 inches, and it's the manifold pressure
combined with the set RPM that will determine the
power.....NOT the RPM!!! Are you trying to tell
me that the rotational (energy) of a propeller is
the same at 15 inches as it is at 61?".
-D Henriques

I think he may be discussing an engine pulling 61" of mercury at a constant
speed of zero RPM. (guffaw)

Arthur Kramer

Despite the somewhat pre-pubescent banter between two apparent adults
who appear to either have dosage problems with their medication or
simply are descending into dotage, I will note the complexity of the
conventional engine which is something that I never was able to
fathom.

In one of the darkest periods of my military career, I was forced to
check out in the T-29 for "support flying" during a headquarters tour
at Randolph AFB. As a jet type, I knew that the lever(s) on the left
of my chair controlled perspective--push forward the houses get
smaller, pull back, they get larger again. There also seemed to be
some linkage to the airspeed indicator as well.

The T-29, however, placed the levers on the wrong side of my chair and
also put them in a cluster with a bunch of other levers with small
colored balls on top and cryptic letters. Instead of nice simple
engine limitations like a fixed exhaust gas temperature or maximum
percent RPM, they gave me some sort of arcane formula that included
not only RPM (which I understood) but manifold pressure (which I
didn't) and in the case of the T-29, something called Torque Oil
Pressure as well as mixture controls.

It seemed that whenever I thought I knew what I wanted, the instructor
pilot or the flight mechanic would slap my hand away from the
throttles, which I had always assumed I owned after saying "I have the
airplane."

The idea that if I wanted to climb, I couldn't simply push the
throttles forward, but also had to do something, in some sequence or
other with the props, the mixture and some other gadgetry was simply
too complex.

On my pilot qual check, I kept pushing the throttles up for
go-arounds, only to have the flight mech pull them back. When I got to
the single-engine exercises, I simply pushed the good engine up, well
short of max, to a minimum controllable power setting and then
finessed the airplane through the climbout. Should have busted the
check for lack of engine knowledge, but they passed me on condition
that I would never fly with passengers (oh, darn!) and that I would
never again touch the engine controls. I simply would ask the flight
mech for more or less power.

I don't know how you old guys did it!