Airplanes and Brakes?

Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
I'm deligthted to see I'm managing to get some arguments and
discussion going. And if you notice, No Profanity?
I challenge my students to learn to taxi without brakes. and I come
down hard if they beat up the airplane with unecessary braking instead
of staying ahead of the airplane. (sometimes even with profanity! Can
you imagine that?)
How about you? If you had to pay for the brakes, tires, and
maintenance, would YOU beat up the airplane?
Ol S&B

I fly a Tiger.

Got any suggestions on how to turn without brakes?

Back when I was flying 172's I never found it necessary to use the brakes
unless I had to make a REALLY tight turn, so I see your point.


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Jim Pennino

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I fly a Tiger.

Got any suggestions on how to turn without brakes?


I fly a Cherokee without toe brakes.

Got any suggestions on how to turn WITH brakes? g

"Steve Foley" wrote:
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I fly a Tiger.

Got any suggestions on how to turn without brakes?


I fly a Cherokee without toe brakes.

Got any suggestions on how to turn WITH brakes? g

So far all I've ever flown is a Schweizer SGS 2-33. Not only can't I turn
it with the brake, I can't reach the brake during taxi anyway since I'm
outside the cockpit during those times. ;-)

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message

So far all I've ever flown is a Schweizer SGS 2-33. Not only can't I turn
it with the brake, I can't reach the brake during taxi anyway since I'm
outside the cockpit during those times. ;-)

You've never landed and then "taxied to parking"?
BT, CFI-G

"BT" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message

So far all I've ever flown is a Schweizer SGS 2-33. Not only can't I
turn it with the brake, I can't reach the brake during taxi anyway
since I'm outside the cockpit during those times. ;-)

You've never landed and then "taxied to parking"?

Sure - but have yet to sit in the aircraft during "taxi to parking"
because the 2-33 is a monowheel glider. (Caveats on the monowheel.
It has small wheels near the wingtips and a small tailwheel.)

After landing one gets out, waits for the tow vehicle (in our case a
riding lawn mower) and someone has to pick up the low wing and level it
and then walk alongside the glider while mower pulls the glider along.
Steering is by walking faster or slower than the mower. It's a grass
strip so trying to manually move the glider more than a few dozen feet
is a chore. This is the field:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...16522&t=h&z=17

Jim Logajan wrote in
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"BT" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message

So far all I've ever flown is a Schweizer SGS 2-33. Not only can't I
turn it with the brake, I can't reach the brake during taxi anyway
since I'm outside the cockpit during those times. ;-)

You've never landed and then "taxied to parking"?

Sure - but have yet to sit in the aircraft during "taxi to parking"
because the 2-33 is a monowheel glider. (Caveats on the monowheel.
It has small wheels near the wingtips and a small tailwheel.)


he meant rolling it to the tiedown after touchdown..



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote in
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"BT" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message

So far all I've ever flown is a Schweizer SGS 2-33. Not only can't I
turn it with the brake, I can't reach the brake during taxi anyway
since I'm outside the cockpit during those times. ;-)

You've never landed and then "taxied to parking"?

Sure - but have yet to sit in the aircraft during "taxi to parking"
because the 2-33 is a monowheel glider. (Caveats on the monowheel.
It has small wheels near the wingtips and a small tailwheel.)


he meant rolling it to the tiedown after touchdown..

Ah - I misunderstood - no. See, there is this shallow drainage ditch in the
grass between the tie down area and the landing field that would make for
some nasty pranging at anything above walking speed. Plus the tow plane is
typically too close to the tie down area to do that safely.

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I fly a Tiger.

Got any suggestions on how to turn without brakes?

Some folks turning planes with a castering nose wheels tend to stay on
the brakes when just taps on the brake will work. This technique
worked on the plane I flew unless I was taxiing too fast.


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On Sep 15, 1:55*pm, wrote:
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:

I'm deligthted to see I'm managing to get some arguments and
discussion going. And if you notice, No Profanity?
I challenge my students to learn to taxi without brakes. and I come
down hard if they beat up the airplane with unecessary braking instead
of staying ahead of the airplane. (sometimes even with profanity! Can
you imagine that?)
How about you? If you had to pay for the brakes, tires, and
maintenance, would YOU beat up the airplane?
Ol S&B

I fly a Tiger.

Got any suggestions on how to turn without brakes?

Back when I was flying 172's I never found it necessary to use the brakes
unless I had to make a REALLY tight turn, so I see your point.

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim
Well ya got me there! But even so, careful use of flight controls can
certainly mitigate brake use. I started flying the old AA-1 back in
the early 70's and it wasn't much different than taxiing one of the
old Volpar Beech conversions that required braking in place of nose
wheel steering.
Ol S&B

"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in

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Well ya got me there! But even so, careful use of flight controls
can certainly mitigate brake use. I started flying the old AA-1
back in the early 70's and it wasn't much different than taxiing
one of the old Volpar Beech conversions that required braking in
place of nose wheel steering.

The best way to teach judicious use of brakes is to drag students
into the hangar during an annual and make them do a complete brake
job.

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