Crab, slips, and crossed controls

Stefan wrote in news:9cc9b$48d7b746$54487392
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Robert Moore schrieb:

A slip is a slip is a slip.

From The FAA H-8083-3a, Airplane Flying Handbook

Ok, so in the USA there exist several different brands of slips.

In the rest of the world however, a slip is a slip is a slip. Which is
how airplanes see it, too, I suppose.


You're full of ****, stefan.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while aerodynamically
identical have different references.






Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.

Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while aerodynamically
identical have different references.

Of course they have different references... visual references, that is:
In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly to one
side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple minded
like you to think they are two different maneuvres.

Stefan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.

Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically identical have different references.

Of course they have different references... visual references, that
is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple
minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.


Yeah, right backpedaling boi.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
Stefan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.
Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically identical have different references.
Of course they have different references... visual references, that
is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple
minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.


Yeah, right backpedaling boi.

You're halluzinating, as usual.

And the follow-up trick is soooooo old and soooo booooring.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in
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| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
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| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple
| minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
|
| Bertie

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Stefan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.

Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically identical have different references.

Of course they have different references... visual references, that
is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple
minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.


Yeah, right backpedaling boi.

Bertie

Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed to
inform me that the rudder system is different from ¡§conventional¡¨
aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the rudder
pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal causes a
corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction of the other.

LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."

Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder pedals.
lol

I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that much of
the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is ****faced
gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other remains
motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest both feet on
the rudder pedals to get a ¡§feel¡¨ for the rudder position. Transferring
this habit to the Velocity invites a common mistake ¡V the unintentional
deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.

I passed the slip back to Little Puker.

Ari wrote in
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Stefan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.

Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically identical have different references.

Of course they have different references... visual references, that
is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
simple minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.


Yeah, right backpedaling boi.

Bertie

Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed to
inform me that the rudder system is different from ¡§conventional¡¨
aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the rudder
pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal causes a
corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction of the
other.

LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."

Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder pedals.
lol

I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that much
of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is ****faced
gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other remains
motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest both feet on
the rudder pedals to get a ¡§feel¡¨ for the rudder position.
Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common mistake ¡V
the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.

I passed the slip back to Little Puker.

Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm going
to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it works the
same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?

Bertie

On Sep 24, 12:26*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ari wrote :



On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Stefan wrote in
. ch:

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.

Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically identical have different references.

Of course they have different references... visual references, that
is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
simple minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.

Yeah, right backpedaling boi.

Bertie

Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed to
inform me that the rudder system is different from conventional
aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the rudder
pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal causes a
corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction of the
other.

LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."

Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder pedals.
lol

I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that much
of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is ****faced
gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other remains
motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest both feet on
the rudder pedals to get a feel for the rudder position.
Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common mistake V
the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.

I passed the slip back to Little Puker.

Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm going
to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it works the
same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?

Bertie

Do those fins deploy in only one direction -- ie,outward, or inward --
and are spring loaded to neutral? Is the change in the airplane's axis
pointing direction just caused by the drag increase when one side or
the other is deployed? It looks to me almost like the way the MU
aircraft used spoilers on top of the wings instead of ailerons (I
think).

a wrote in
:

On Sep 24, 12:26*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ari wrote
innews:6jv4u2F59v
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Stefan wrote in
. ch:

Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:

You're full of ****, stefan.

Still better than completely hollow like you.

Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically identical have different references.

Of course they have different references... visual references,
that is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look
slightly to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is
enough for simple minded like you to think they are two different
maneuvres.

Yeah, right backpedaling boi.

Bertie

Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed
to inform me that the rudder system is different from conventional
aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the
rudder pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal
causes a corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction
of the other.

LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."

Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder
pedals. lol

I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that
much of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is
****faced gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other
remains motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest
both feet on the rudder pedals to get a feel for the rudder
position. Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common
mistake V the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s)
in flight.

I passed the slip back to Little Puker.

Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm
going to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it
works the same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?

Bertie

Do those fins deploy in only one direction -- ie,outward, or inward --
and are spring loaded to neutral? Is the change in the airplane's axis
pointing direction just caused by the drag increase when one side or
the other is deployed? It looks to me almost like the way the MU
aircraft used spoilers on top of the wings instead of ailerons (I
think).


Well, that's the way i understood it, but I've never flown one..


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Ari wrote in
| :
|
| On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
|
| Stefan wrote in
| :
|
| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
| simple minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
| Bertie
|
| Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed to
| inform me that the rudder system is different from ¡§conventional¡¨
| aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the rudder
| pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal causes a
| corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction of the
| other.
|
| LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."
|
| Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder pedals.
| lol
|
| I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
| independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that much
| of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is ****faced
| gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other remains
| motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest both feet on
| the rudder pedals to get a ¡§feel¡¨ for the rudder position.
| Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common mistake ¡V
| the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.
|
| I passed the slip back to Little Puker.
|
| Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm going
| to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it works the
| same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?
|
| Berti

Let us know when, so we can hide in our bunkers.