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  #91  
Old September 25th 08, 06:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike
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"george" wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 3:03 pm, "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote:
Are there churches where
stupidity is preached from the pulpit? Are there clubs and civic
organizations where stupidity is fostered to a fine art form?


Obviously.
And evidence of such subculture is demonstrated in your every post


Actually, george, you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not one to toot my own
horn, but I do need to point out that quite a number of my posts could
definitely be classified as clever by an objective reader, and dare I say
humorous to some degree. So either objectivity and humor are not your
forté, or your desire to come to the defense of rubes is so overwhelming you
would risk being ridiculed for your last senseless post in order to kiss the
arse of the resident RAP village idiot for reasons one can only speculate.

  #92  
Old September 25th 08, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| Stefan wrote in news:9cc9b$48d7b746$54487392
| :
|
| Robert Moore schrieb:
|
| A slip is a slip is a slip.
|
| From The FAA H-8083-3a, Airplane Flying Handbook
|
| Ok, so in the USA there exist several different brands of slips.
|
| In the rest of the world however, a slip is a slip is a slip. Which is
| how airplanes see it, too, I suppose.
|
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while aerodynamically
| identical have different references.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Bertie
|
|

But they are still slips, dumb ass.


  #93  
Old September 25th 08, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mick[_2_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in
| :
|
| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple
| minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
|
| Bertie

No he's not.




  #94  
Old September 25th 08, 04:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mick[_2_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in news:63abb$48d80395$d9a270a8
| :
|
| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
| Stefan wrote in
| :
|
| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
| Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
| simple
| minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
| You're halluzinating, as usual.
|
| And the follow-up trick is soooooo old and soooo booooring.
|
|
|
| What folowup trick fjukkwit?
|
|
| A good k00k deserves to be shared.
|
| Shouldn't you be chiseling the gold teeth out of a dead body, BTW?
|
|
| Bertie
|
|

What a useless and unrelated reply.


  #95  
Old September 25th 08, 04:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :
|
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| | Stefan wrote in
| | :
| |
| | Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
| |
| | You're full of ****, stefan.
| |
| | Still better than completely hollow like you.
| |
| | Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| | aerodynamically identical have different references.
| |
| | Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| | is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| | to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
simple
| | minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
| |
| |
| | Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|


  #96  
Old September 25th 08, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mick[_2_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Ari wrote in
| :
|
| On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
|
| Stefan wrote in
| :
|
| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
| simple minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
| Bertie
|
| Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed to
| inform me that the rudder system is different from ¡§conventional¡¨
| aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the rudder
| pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal causes a
| corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction of the
| other.
|
| LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."
|
| Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder pedals.
| lol
|
| I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
| independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that much
| of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is ****faced
| gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other remains
| motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest both feet on
| the rudder pedals to get a ¡§feel¡¨ for the rudder position.
| Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common mistake ¡V
| the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.
|
| I passed the slip back to Little Puker.
|
| Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm going
| to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it works the
| same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?
|
| Berti

Let us know when, so we can hide in our bunkers.


  #97  
Old September 25th 08, 04:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mick[_2_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
|a wrote in
| :
|
| On Sep 24, 12:26 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| Ari wrote
| innews:6jv4u2F59v
| :
|
|
|
| On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
|
| Stefan wrote in
| . ch:
|
| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references,
| that is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look
| slightly to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is
| enough for simple minded like you to think they are two different
| maneuvres.
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
| Bertie
|
| Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed
| to inform me that the rudder system is different from conventional
| aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the
| rudder pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal
| causes a corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction
| of the other.
|
| LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."
|
| Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder
| pedals. lol
|
| I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
| independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that
| much of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is
| ****faced gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other
| remains motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest
| both feet on the rudder pedals to get a feel for the rudder
| position. Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common
| mistake V the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s)
| in flight.
|
| I passed the slip back to Little Puker.
|
| Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm
| going to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it
| works the same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?
|
| Bertie
|
| Do those fins deploy in only one direction -- ie,outward, or inward --
| and are spring loaded to neutral? Is the change in the airplane's axis
| pointing direction just caused by the drag increase when one side or
| the other is deployed? It looks to me almost like the way the MU
| aircraft used spoilers on top of the wings instead of ailerons (I
| think).
|
|
| Well, that's the way i understood it, but I've never flown one..
|
|
| Bertie
|

We could apparently write a book about things you have never ACTUALLY done.


  #98  
Old September 25th 08, 04:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| "Vaughn Simon" wrote in
| :
|
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| This is one of those aeronautical "discussions" that can go on
| forever
| without a clear winner or loser, unless you can agree on who's
| definition you wish to accept. For very basic piloting questions like
| this, I keep an old copy of "Stick and Rudder" on the shelf. I found
| it interesting that Wolfgang apparently found no need to make a
| distinction; regardless if done for glidepath control or landing in a
| crosswind, he calls them both "sideslips".
|
| Mmm, cept Stefan the cheese nazi has no intention of discussing anythign.
|
|
| Bertie

Bull****, lamer. You're the one with CDD..


  #99  
Old September 25th 08, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| "Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :
|
|
| "Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| | aerodynamically identical have different references.
| |
| | This is one of those aeronautical "discussions" that can go on
| | forever
| | without a clear winner or loser, unless you can agree on who's
| | definition
| you
| | wish to accept. For very basic piloting questions like this, I keep
| | an
| old copy
| | of "Stick and Rudder" on the shelf. I found it interesting that
| | Wolfgang apparently found no need to make a distinction; regardless
| | if done for
| glidepath
| | control or landing in a crosswind, he calls them both "sideslips".
| |
| | Go figure.
| |
| | Vaughn
| |
| |
|
| Does the term forward slip describe a slip? Yes.
|
| Does the term side slip describe a slip? Yes.
|
| Do both requre the same control inputs? Yes.
|
| What next? Will we have pattern turns, cross country turns, sight
| seeing turns, high altitude turns etc.
|
|
|
| What's this "we" ****, wannabe boi?
|
|
|
| Bertie
|
|

You and your ignorant sock puppets.


  #100  
Old September 25th 08, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
...
| "Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically
| | identical have different references.
| |
| | This is one of those aeronautical "discussions" that can go on
forever
| | without a clear winner or loser, unless you can agree on who's
| definition
| you
| | wish to accept. For very basic piloting questions like this, I keep
an
| old copy
| | of "Stick and Rudder" on the shelf. I found it interesting that
| Wolfgang
| | apparently found no need to make a distinction; regardless if done for
| glidepath
| | control or landing in a crosswind, he calls them both "sideslips".
| |
| | Go figure.
| |
| | Vaughn
| |
| |
|
| Does the term forward slip describe a slip? Yes.
|
| Does the term side slip describe a slip? Yes.
|
| Do both requre the same control inputs? Yes.
|
| What next? Will we have pattern turns, cross country turns, sight seeing
| turns, high altitude turns etc.
|
| Taking your moronic Okie logic the other direction, why not simply just
call
| everything a maneuver, which would cover taxiing, takeoffs, landings,
turns,
| slips, stalls, lazy eights, ascents, descents, chandelles, spins,
| immelmanns, barrel rolls, and dozens of other things.
|
| I'm just curious as to how Okies like you rise to the crème de la dumb
| level. Inbreeding and fetal alcohol syndrome only can account for so
much.
| Are there monuments to stupidity in every town? Do you have museums
| dedicated to stupidity that you regularly attend? Are there churches
where
| stupidity is preached from the pulpit? Are there clubs and civic
| organizations where stupidity is fostered to a fine art form?
|

Great, another lame story.

Keep taking drugs, I'm sure you are entertaining someone somewhere.


 




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