Crab, slips, and crossed controls

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :




And of course you would know that, because you are an aviation legend.




Thenkkew.



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| | | Stefan wrote in
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| | | Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
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| | | You're full of ****, stefan.
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| | | Still better than completely hollow like you.
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| | | Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| | | aerodynamically identical have different references.
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| | | Of course they have different references... visual references,
| | | that is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look
| | | slightly to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is
| | | enough for
| simple
| | | minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
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| | | Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :
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| And of course you would know that, because you are an aviation legend.
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| Thenkkew.
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| Bertie
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"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in news:9cc9b$48d7b746
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| Robert Moore schrieb:
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| A slip is a slip is a slip.
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| From The FAA H-8083-3a, Airplane Flying Handbook
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| Ok, so in the USA there exist several different brands of slips.
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| In the rest of the world however, a slip is a slip is a slip. Which
is
| how airplanes see it, too, I suppose.
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| You're full of ****, stefan.
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| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically
| identical have different references.
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| Bertie
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But they are still slips, dumb ass.




Oww!

What an astute observation.


And you're stil a fjukktard.


Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in news:xEACk.10086$tp1.4322
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| "Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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| | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| | Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| | aerodynamically identical have different references.
| |
| | This is one of those aeronautical "discussions" that can go on
| | forever
| | without a clear winner or loser, unless you can agree on who's
| | definition
| you
| | wish to accept. For very basic piloting questions like this, I
keep
| | an
| old copy
| | of "Stick and Rudder" on the shelf. I found it interesting that
| | Wolfgang apparently found no need to make a distinction;
regardless
| | if done for
| glidepath
| | control or landing in a crosswind, he calls them both "sideslips".
| |
| | Go figure.
| |
| | Vaughn
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| Does the term forward slip describe a slip? Yes.
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| Does the term side slip describe a slip? Yes.
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| Do both requre the same control inputs? Yes.
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| What next? Will we have pattern turns, cross country turns, sight
| seeing turns, high altitude turns etc.
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| What's this "we" ****, wannabe boi?
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| Bertie
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You and your ignorant sock puppets.


Yeh, sure fjuukwit.

you can't even follow up your own lames

bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in
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| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
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| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references, that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for simple
| minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
|
| Bertie

No he's not.





Thank you.


Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in news:63abb$48d80395
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| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
| Stefan wrote in
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| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
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| You're full of ****, stefan.
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
| Of course they have different references... visual references,
that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look
slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
| simple
| minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
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| You're halluzinating, as usual.
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| And the follow-up trick is soooooo old and soooo booooring.
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| What folowup trick fjukkwit?
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| A good k00k deserves to be shared.
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| Shouldn't you be chiseling the gold teeth out of a dead body, BTW?
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| Bertie
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|

What a useless and unrelated reply.




Bwawahwh!

Nope.


Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Ari wrote in
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| On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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| Stefan wrote in
| :
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| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
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| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references,
that
| is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you look
slightly
| to one side. I'm fully aware that this difference is enough for
| simple minded like you to think they are two different maneuvres.
|
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
| Bertie
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| Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he failed
to
| inform me that the rudder system is different from ¡§conventional¡¨
| aircraft in both design and performance. In most aircraft the
rudder
| pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on one rudder pedal causes
a
| corresponding movement in the opposite (upward) direction of the
| other.
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| LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center stick."
|
| Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder
pedals.
| lol
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| I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity operate
| independent from each other,what I they failed to notice is that
much
| of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder deployment is
****faced
| gone. Push one rudder pedal in the Velocity and the other remains
| motionless. Cessna and Piper pilots like me learn to rest both feet
on
| the rudder pedals to get a ¡§feel¡¨ for the rudder position.
| Transferring this habit to the Velocity invites a common mistake ¡V
| the unintentional deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.
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| I passed the slip back to Little Puker.
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| Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm
going
| to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe it works
the
| same way. You can use both together as a speed brake, yes?
|
| Berti

Let us know when, so we can hide in our bunkers.



Best get hiding, fjukkktard


Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| On Sep 24, 12:26 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| Ari wrote
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| On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
| wrote:
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| Stefan wrote in
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| Bertie the Bunyip schrieb:
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Still better than completely hollow like you.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| Of course they have different references... visual references,
| that is: In one, you look straight ahead, in the other, you
| look slightly to one side. I'm fully aware that this
| difference is enough for simple minded like you to think they
| are two different maneuvres.
|
| Yeah, right backpedaling boi.
|
| Bertie
|
| Bert, first time Little Luke took me up in his Velocity, he
| failed to inform me that the rudder system is different from
| conventional aircraft in both design and performance. In most
| aircraft the rudder pedals are interconnected. Pushing down on
| one rudder pedal causes a corresponding movement in the opposite
| (upward) direction of the other.
|
| LL says to me, let's slip this baby home. Taje the center
| stick."
|
| Uh, like first of all, I'm not LHanded. Then I find the rudder
| pedals. lol
|
| I was quick to note that the rudder pedals in the Velocity
| operate independent from each other,what I they failed to notice
| is that much of the sensory feedback with respect to rudder
| deployment is ****faced gone. Push one rudder pedal in the
| Velocity and the other remains motionless. Cessna and Piper
| pilots like me learn to rest both feet on the rudder pedals to
| get a feel for the rudder position. Transferring this habit to
| the Velocity invites a common mistake V the unintentional
| deployment of one (or both!) rudder(s) in flight.
|
| I passed the slip back to Little Puker.
|
| Yes, I've heard about this feature in that type of airplane. I'm
| going to get a chance to fly a Long Eze pretty soon and I believe
| it works the same way. You can use both together as a speed brake,
| yes?
|
| Bertie
|
| Do those fins deploy in only one direction -- ie,outward, or inward
| -- and are spring loaded to neutral? Is the change in the
| airplane's axis pointing direction just caused by the drag increase
| when one side or the other is deployed? It looks to me almost like
| the way the MU aircraft used spoilers on top of the wings instead
| of ailerons (I think).
|
|
| Well, that's the way i understood it, but I've never flown one..
|
|
| Bertie
|

We could apparently write a book about things you have never ACTUALLY
done.




Yep, you could, lamerboi.


Who's that "we" again, BTW?



Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Vaughn Simon" wrote in
| :
|
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
| aerodynamically identical have different references.
|
| This is one of those aeronautical "discussions" that can go on
| forever
| without a clear winner or loser, unless you can agree on who's
| definition you wish to accept. For very basic piloting questions
| like this, I keep an old copy of "Stick and Rudder" on the shelf.
| I found it interesting that Wolfgang apparently found no need to
| make a distinction; regardless if done for glidepath control or
| landing in a crosswind, he calls them both "sideslips".
|
| Mmm, cept Stefan the cheese nazi has no intention of discussing
| anythign.
|
|
| Bertie

Bull****, lamer. You're the one with CDD..



Uh, yeh. OK lamerboi.


Bertie