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Darkwing opined

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It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a
landing. Had it happen once, and as we powered up for the
go-around at DFW my reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of
anything dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much
jargon. IMHO it's a good idea now and then to mention an
aviation subject in an educational article free from
sensationalism or disaster references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go
around on a commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no
idea what a "go around" is and why they are typically made.

I was on a go around, or a missed approach (I don't remember
which) back in the 80s going into Logan. Once in maybe a hundred
flights.

Doesn't happen often, and it was a real suprise.



Once in many hundreds or thousands is more like it. I think I have
done two in the last five years... Both on ILS's

When the winds (especially x-winds) pick up, the number increases
significantly. A few months ago I saw two different DC-10s go
around at the same airport on the same day.


Yeah. That can do it, too.

the old saw is that each approach is an approach to a go around, A
landing off of it is a bonus..

Personally I just view the missed as another segment of the approach.
I'm surprised each time I don't have to execute it.


I'm just kinda annoyed. Means more work!

Beats digging ditches.

One time going into LAX with the weather right at minimums, the
airline shot three approaches - and missed all three! So then they
hauled us over to Palmdale and
sat for two hours. Wouldn't let anyone out of the plane "Because it's
a Military Base". Finally took off again and went back to LAX and
landed without problems.

That was the only missed approach I remember in many years of airline
travel. However, there was another occasion that probably should have
been a missed - and wasn't. I was flying from Greenland to Amsterdam,
Netherlands on a DC-6 (another story) - and they announced that we
would be stopping in Iceland for fuel. I fell asleep for awhile, then
woke up and looked out the window to see a big, rugged island going
by. I figured it must be Iceland - there isn't anything else out there
- and we were'nt landing! So on we went, and after quite some time
they announced that we were diverting to Brussels, as Amsterdam was
below minimums. We went on and on in the murk, and after a long while
I could tell we were descending. Down and down we went with zero
visibility. Then I saw the ground up close - and just like that
we were down. Good landing. We then taxiied for a long while in thick
fog before arriving at the Terminal. To our surprise, we were in
Amsterdam (as originally intended) and not Brussels! Nothing was said
after the "divert to Brussels" announcement - but I have no doubt
that, considering the skipped fuel stop, they had the choice of making
the landing or ditching in the North Sea.

Dave

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It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a
landing. Had it happen once, and as we powered up for the
go-around at DFW my reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result
of
anything dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much
jargon. IMHO it's a good idea now and then to mention an
aviation subject in an educational article free from
sensationalism or disaster references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go
around on a commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no
idea what a "go around" is and why they are typically made.

I was on a go around, or a missed approach (I don't remember
which) back in the 80s going into Logan. Once in maybe a hundred
flights.

Doesn't happen often, and it was a real suprise.



Once in many hundreds or thousands is more like it. I think I
have
done two in the last five years... Both on ILS's

When the winds (especially x-winds) pick up, the number increases
significantly. A few months ago I saw two different DC-10s go
around at the same airport on the same day.


Yeah. That can do it, too.

the old saw is that each approach is an approach to a go around, A
landing off of it is a bonus..

Personally I just view the missed as another segment of the
approach.
I'm surprised each time I don't have to execute it.


I'm just kinda annoyed. Means more work!

Beats digging ditches.



Most of the time!


Bertie

On Oct 8, 11:48*am, jeremy wrote:
Dave wrote:

* To our surprise, we were in

Amsterdam (as originally intended) and not Brussels! Nothing was said
after the "divert to Brussels" announcement - but I have no doubt
that, considering the skipped fuel stop, they had the choice of making
the landing or ditching in the North Sea.

Dave

* Keflavik International Airpor is well equipped and highly secure, with two
runways: 02/20, 3054 x 60 m, and 11/29, 3065 x 60 m. All approaches are free
of obstruction, and the airport is equipped with today´s most advanced
approach systems. Runways 11 and 20 are Category II; runways 02 and 29 Category I.
* * * * However, its reputation as a tech or refuel stop is somewhat hampered by the
often inclement weather. Many other easy diverts between there and your
destination, so I doubt that fuel was that important. Also, the Greenland
flight path is usually over Southern Eire, and the only reason to go so far
north would be to avoid weather, and it probably cleared.

JJ

So far as I could tell, weather wasn't a problem in Iceland - we were
under a high overcast, but otherwise the visibility was good. Further
East we were in the soup continuously until landing. I have no idea
what other possible landing sites were like that day - they don't
usually share that info with the passengers. I did wish that
they had kept us posted on what was going on at the time. Origin of
the flight was Sondre Stromfiord.

Dave

I once experienced a go-around on a commercial flight, HNL to LAX,
coming in about 5:30 AM.
We were over the numbers when the pilots added power and went around.
ATC was on the audio system (one nice thing about United).

On the way out, the pilots asked whether they had gotten clearance to
land.

Got a good view of the LA basin...