Super fast assembly and launch...

On Nov 14, 12:14*pm, wrote:
On Nov 14, 2:46*pm, Brad wrote:

I don't think they did a positive control check. Not too smart...but
oh, well, it was a record attempt, don't you know?

hah..................you read my mind...........just for a wind-up I
thought I would post this on our clubs BB, sit back and watch the
safety monkeys come un-glued.

Brad

This is merely reckless, and only moderately so, at that. *Any fool
can be reckless. *I want to see recklessness that requires real skill
to survive.
At the very least he could have finished the flight with a redline
pass under a bridge.

-T8

inverted

Be careful Brad. Some of the safety primates read this site too...

I noticed the lack of a PCC as well, and thought that was kind of poor
form. They did do a control check, meaning that they made sure things
moved and opened and closed. The Discus and many other modern
sailplanes all now have automatic control hookups. So what is the risk
of not performing a PCC with automatic hookups? Has anyone with one of
these modern ships ever had a problem that was discovered during a
PCC?

On Nov 14, 12:54*pm, KevinFinke wrote:

...Has anyone with one of
these modern ships ever had a problem that was discovered during a
PCC?

It's rare, but I have seen it happen: Chad Moore discovered a broken
center elevator hinge on PCC of the auto-connecting elevator on his
Russia. Pulling the stick back would push the elevator aft without
deflecting it up.

Thanks, Bob K.

On Nov 14, 1:09*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Nov 14, 12:54*pm, KevinFinke wrote:

...Has anyone with one of
these modern ships ever had a problem that was discovered during a
PCC?

It's rare, but I have seen it happen: Chad Moore discovered a broken
center elevator hinge on PCC of the auto-connecting elevator on his
Russia. Pulling the stick back would push the elevator aft without
deflecting it up.

Thanks, Bob K.

Kevin and Brad, I am one of those safety primates, I just don't make a
lot of noise about it. Although I did get a lecture about that 130
knot contest finish.

DG300's are supposed to be auto hookup, but Dan King told me about
managing to get the tail on without the bearing getting into the
funnel, making the elevator useless. That is one failed hookup I don't
want to make. I think the thing about saftey as you're either becoming
more safe or less safe over time, and if you stop thinking about it
then you're probably becoming less safe. The other thing is to weigh
the cost, and the cost of a positive is very low in terms of time and
probably could have been done by that team with no increase in time.


Personally I find safety excites me.

On Nov 14, 3:54*pm, KevinFinke wrote:
Has anyone with one of
these modern ships ever had a problem that was discovered during a
PCC?

Yes, ASW27, C/G release check, failure to open; jammed with dirt. That
would have been fun on the winch.

They looked switched on enough to have rehearsed this a few times and taken
the safety aspects into consideration.

Given most of the previous comments in the thread I'm not surprised that
soaring is turning into an old farts hobby.

Live a little before you die.

On Nov 14, 3:45*pm, Z Goudie wrote:
They looked switched on enough to have rehearsed this a few times and taken
the safety aspects into consideration.

Given most of the previous comments in the thread I'm not surprised that
soaring is turning into an old farts hobby.

Live a little before you die.

eh? speak up sunny........I caint hear ya?

Brad

PS..............totally agree with you!

At 23:45 14 November 2008, Z Goudie wrote:
They looked switched on enough to have rehearsed this a few times and
taken the safety aspects into consideration.
Given most of the previous comments in the thread I'm
not surprised that soaring is turning into an old farts hobby.
Live a little before you die.


Yes, one could look at this as a very carefully planned demonstration,
where you can notice that the brain of the
operation is a blond Finnish, carefully supervising and
certainly ready to stop the op if the need arise.

It is also amazing to notice that particular sailplane holding itself
together with one bolt and one pin only.

IS NOT THIS SOME KIND OF MAGIC!!!!
(a wonder of German engineering)

and....they did not seal the gaps...................
but........what a great show...........................

PCC was maybe skipped,
but could certainly be performed without loosing a single sec

At 23:45 14 November 2008, Z Goudie wrote:
They looked switched on enough to have rehearsed this a few times and
taken the safety aspects into consideration.
Given most of the previous comments in the thread I'm
not surprised that soaring is turning into an old farts hobby.
Live a little before you die.


Yes, one could look at this as a very carefully planned demonstration,
where you can notice that the brain of the
operation is a blond Finnish, carefully supervising and
certainly ready to stop the op if the need arise.

It is also amazing to notice that particular sailplane holding itself
together with one bolt and one pin only.

IS NOT THIS SOME KIND OF MAGIC!!!!
(a wonder of German engineering)

and....they did not seal the gaps...................
but........what a great show...........................

PCC was maybe skipped,
but could certainly be performed without loosing a single sec