I'm searching for a book.

On Dec 22, 3:01*pm, Ed Rasimus wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:55:22 -0800 (PST), gpsman

wrote:
On Dec 22, 1:08*pm, Ed Rasimus wrote:

Shaw's book is an excellent resource.

"Excellent"...?

Is there a better one?

Always!

So, there is no such thing as "best"?

You are asking if there is a single "universal truth".

No, I'm asking if there's a better resource (available) regarding the
OP's quest for "a book about modern fighter dogfighting, modern air
combat manoeuvering"

What's the purpose? What's the aircraft? What are the weapons? What is
the scenario? Are we talking about comparative performance or fully
integrated modern combat scenarios?

Just BCM. I think they call it BCM because it pretty much applies
across the board, kinda like "Stick & Rudder".

Typically the latest tactics manuals for a given weapon system are
going to be "better" than generic discussions of the subject.

I imagine so. I also imagine those manuals aren't generally made
available to the public...

AFAIK, and that's about from here | to | there, it's more or less
"look down, shoot down", way outside visual range these days.

Check behind the "green door".

The movie?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068260/
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- gpsman

Anyone else seeing a leetle red flag..?

On Dec 22, 1:44*pm, "Sqeeb" wrote:

I am thinking right now about that Shaw's book, but firstly I'll try to find
lower-priced one. 46 pounds its quite a lot for me

A cheaper alternative might be finding a copy of the old Microprose
flight sim Falcon 3.0, Gold, or 4.0.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_(computer_game)

3.0 was advertised as "a declassified version of the simulator used to
train National Guard F-16 pilots".

The extensive manual that came with v3.0 (the only version with which
I have experience) covered BCM pretty well, and the program included a
comprehensive training program.
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- gpsman

A cheaper alternative might be finding a copy of the old
Microprose flight sim Falcon 3.0, Gold, or 4.0.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_(computer_game)

3.0 was advertised as "a declassified version of the simulator used
to train National Guard F-16 pilots".

The extensive manual that came with v3.0 (the only version with
which I have experience) covered BCM pretty well, and the
program included a comprehensive training program.

I have Lock On Modern Air Combat v1.02 right now and it also covers BCM
well. And there are few aircrafts to choose(Su-25,27,33, MiG-29(A/S),
F-15C).

Greet,
Sqeeb

Sqeeb wrote:

Welcome.
I do not know if it's the best place(or places because i send this mail to
rec.aviation.military and rec.aviation.piloting) to ask, but I don't know
any better.

I am searching for a book about modern fighter dogfighting, modern air
combat manoeuvering(excuse me but I do not know how to spell it) and so
on. I have only found this two books on amazon:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fighter-Comb.../dp/0870210599

It is very hard to go wrong with the Gospel According to Shaw.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1..._luc_sbs_02_02
I don't know this one - It does look interesting.
Are you interested in simulation and Air Combat AIs?
If you are very technical, and know your way around algorithms,
NASA published a series of reports on logic developed to provide
proper behavior for 1970s and 1980s era 1 vs 1 combat.
The results were quite good - the code was inventing the proper maneuvers
just through use of its logic and the opponents situation.
If you'll bear with me, I'll try to dig out a reference.

For a more layman-oriented (and easier on the wallet) set of references,
check for books by Mike Spick, such as:
The Ace Factor
By Mike Spick, Michael Spick
Published by Harper Mass Market Paperbacks (Mm), 1989
ISBN 0380708256, 9780380708253
256 pages

or

Fighter Pilot Tactics: The Techniques of Daylight Air Combat
By Mike Spick
Published by Patrick Stephens, 1983
ISBN 0850596173, 9780850596175
176 pages

or

Modern Air Combat: The Aircraft, Tactics and Weapons Employed in Aerial
Warfare Today
By Bill Gunston, Mike Spick
Published by Salamander, 2001
ISBN 0861011627, 9780861011629
224 pages

I'm sorry for all mistakes that I have done in this mail.

I assure you, sir, that your English is much better than my Polish.
You're doing just fine.

Greet,
Welcome to the group.

--
Pete Stickney
The better the Four Wheel Drive, the further out you get stuck.

Thank all of You for your help. Actually its christmas time and I don't have to much time for my own things.

I'll propobly respond again around monday.


Marry Christmas.


Greet,
Sqeeb