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Old December 26th 03, 06:34 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
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-Gord.
Merry Christmas to you/yours Gord. Glad to see the "Sensible Old

Hands" are
still around/lurking ADA.


Look here, Nesbitt, as long as you are calling 747s "bombs", you are a

nut.

Why does my wishing some 1 Merry Christmas cause you such "Heart Burn".


No, Ralph, it is you attempting to include yourself in some "sensible old
hands" group, that gives me alarm; as you are a nut calling 747s "bombs".
Do you have any clue how humiliated Cal Tech is for that little stunt?


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Old December 27th 03, 12:16 AM
Ralph Nesbitt
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
y.com...

-Gord.
Merry Christmas to you/yours Gord. Glad to see the "Sensible Old

Hands" are
still around/lurking ADA.

Look here, Nesbitt, as long as you are calling 747s "bombs", you are a

nut.

Why does my wishing some 1 Merry Christmas cause you such "Heart Burn".


No, Ralph, it is you attempting to include yourself in some "sensible old
hands" group, that gives me alarm; as you are a nut calling 747s "bombs".
Do you have any clue how humiliated Cal Tech is for that little stunt?

I will not debate you over the fine points of Electrical Engineering, simply
because I do not understand the "Fine Points" of same.

You argue from a "Off the Cuff Perspective" without a true understanding of
the hazards inherent in the "Basic Boeing CWT Design Philosophy" under
specified circumstances. Do they occur every day, no, but is there a history
of incidents traceable to a condition resulting from "Specified Shortcoming"
in "Basic Boeing CWT Design Philosophy".

Scream/Rant/Rave till "Hell Freezes Over", it won't change the basic fact,
that unless operated in a specified manner/very carefully"Basic Boeing CWT
Design Philosophy" effectively turns all Boeing A/C into "as you say Bombs,
under certain circumstances".
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type




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Old December 27th 03, 03:32 AM
Tarver Engineering
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"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
news

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
y.com...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
y.com...

-Gord.
Merry Christmas to you/yours Gord. Glad to see the "Sensible Old

Hands" are
still around/lurking ADA.

Look here, Nesbitt, as long as you are calling 747s "bombs", you are

a nut.

Why does my wishing some 1 Merry Christmas cause you such "Heart

Burn".

No, Ralph, it is you attempting to include yourself in some "sensible

old
hands" group, that gives me alarm; as you are a nut calling 747s

"bombs".
Do you have any clue how humiliated Cal Tech is for that little stunt?

I will not debate you over the fine points of Electrical Engineering,

simply
because I do not understand the "Fine Points" of same.

You argue from a "Off the Cuff Perspective" without a true understanding

of
the hazards inherent in the "Basic Boeing CWT Design Philosophy" under
specified circumstances.


Your arguement that the 737 CWT wire bundles covered by advisory circular
has anything to do with a "design philosophy" is delusional. A mistake with
early 737 wire bundles does not translate into a 747 CWT problem.


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Old December 27th 03, 04:24 AM
Duster
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Holy **** and all I wanted was a video... hehe this is almost better
though..

Duster


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Old December 27th 03, 05:10 AM
Ralph Nesbitt
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"Duster" wrote in message
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Holy **** and all I wanted was a video... hehe this is almost better
though..

Duster

Tarver cannot get it through his head that having the air handling units
operating under the CWT when the A/C is stationary is like putting a
pressure cooker with a small amount of fuel in it, on a stove at low heat.

There have been several incidents world wide where Boeing A/C of various
models have exploded sitting at gates, on ramps, taxing out, or shortly
after take off after sitting with the air handling units running under ~
empty CWT's.

There are now "Air Safety Directives" stipulating/requiring certain
operating protocols to minimize this hazard associated with the "Boeing CWT
Design Philosophy".
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type


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Old December 27th 03, 05:22 AM
John Mazor
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"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
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"Duster" wrote in message
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Holy **** and all I wanted was a video... hehe this is almost better
though..

Duster

Tarver cannot get it through his head that having the air handling units
operating under the CWT when the A/C is stationary is like putting a
pressure cooker with a small amount of fuel in it, on a stove at low heat.


That, and Tarver being an engineer, reminds me of the old joke: an engineer
is someone who thinks that, if your left leg is in a bucket of hot water and
your right leg is in a bucket of ice, then on average, you're comfortable.


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Old December 27th 03, 05:43 AM
Scott M. Kozel
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"John Mazor" wrote:

"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote
"Duster" wrote in message

Holy **** and all I wanted was a video... hehe this is almost better
though..


Tarver cannot get it through his head that having the air handling units
operating under the CWT when the A/C is stationary is like putting a
pressure cooker with a small amount of fuel in it, on a stove at low heat.


That, and Tarver being an engineer, reminds me of the old joke: an engineer
is someone who thinks that, if your left leg is in a bucket of hot water and
your right leg is in a bucket of ice, then on average, you're comfortable.


Keyboard!
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Old December 28th 03, 04:06 AM
Pooh Bear
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John Mazor wrote:

"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
.. .

"Duster" wrote in message
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Holy **** and all I wanted was a video... hehe this is almost better
though..

Duster

Tarver cannot get it through his head that having the air handling units
operating under the CWT when the A/C is stationary is like putting a
pressure cooker with a small amount of fuel in it, on a stove at low heat.


That, and Tarver being an engineer, reminds me of the old joke: an engineer
is someone who thinks that, if your left leg is in a bucket of hot water and
your right leg is in a bucket of ice, then on average, you're comfortable.


Maybe your balls are ?

Graham


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Old December 27th 03, 05:31 AM
Duster
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Could you point me to the thread? This sounds intersting...

Duster

"Ralph Nesbitt" wrote in message
.. .

"Duster" wrote in message
. ..
Holy **** and all I wanted was a video... hehe this is almost better
though..

Duster

Tarver cannot get it through his head that having the air handling units
operating under the CWT when the A/C is stationary is like putting a
pressure cooker with a small amount of fuel in it, on a stove at low heat.

There have been several incidents world wide where Boeing A/C of various
models have exploded sitting at gates, on ramps, taxing out, or shortly
after take off after sitting with the air handling units running under ~
empty CWT's.

There are now "Air Safety Directives" stipulating/requiring certain
operating protocols to minimize this hazard associated with the "Boeing

CWT
Design Philosophy".
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type




 




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