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On Jan 4, 5:42*pm, Rolf wrote:
Caesar Creek Soaring Club is investigating the possibility of winch launching on our field. As expected there are very polarized opinions on the merits, value, and safety of winch launching. I would appreciate any rational inputs on the merits of winching or reference data from other sites on training merits and safety. Actual experience data would also be appreciated. Thanks Rolf Hegele President, CCSC Well, I can see you are taking a more measured and scientific approach than I did in acquiring a winch! I have discovered in my half century (plus) of life that if I try to answer all the questions before a substantial act of initiative, then A) I never get to the end of the questions, and B) my subliminal goal is to scuttle the project and relax again. Ha! Certainly I am not accusing you of this, because what you are doing is also rightly called due-diligence - a rational and prudent first step. So I would ask, before we emerse ourselves in radio calls and line captains and frequencies, is staging and winching gliders something you can visualize at your field? Can you picture it in operation? Where do the gliders wait before being staged for launch? Where do they land? How much line can you handle? Is it enough? Where does the retrieve vehicle drive? If the answers are positive, then do it! (my humble recommendation) It is SO much fun and SO beneficial to students who need to learn to land consistently. I acquired a winch almost a year ago and have used it to launch a pair of Grob 103s and an ASK21 several hundred times over the course of the 2008 season here in Faribault, Minnesota (http:// www.crosscountrysoaring.com). There are photos/video on the web site. We do an average of 1000 launches (aero+winch) each seven-month season...probably 70% instruction, 30% rides (sold at mall kiosks over Xmas). My very first step after buying the winch was to seek expertise. Bill Daniels and Frank Whiteley spent several days with us teaching us how a winch operation should work. They delivered this expert instruction/experience for travel/hotel/food expenses. You can't beat that. And in hindsight, this step was absolutely mandatory. Having said that, and bowing to any additions/corrections these two might make to what I am about to write, here are a some randomly occurring thoughts: 1. It will be more fun than you thought (my decision to buy was purely pragmatic, but it's an absolute blast) 2. 4-6 launches per hour is great for students - both for their training and their wallets 3. Be overly cautious/respectful about announcing and clearing the runway. You want power pilots on your side. They will love watching the launch. Give the local power guys a free ride. Always call them first on the radio if they are running up or entering the pattern and let them know you can accomodate them (or if you can't, why). 4. Yes, the winch and a quart of gas launches a glider to 2000FT, does not require expensive insurance, is not threatened by A/Ds, does not require expensive hangar space, does not have to be operated by a commercially rated pilot and can be worked on by anyone (no A/P or IA necessary). So you got all that going for you. Which is nice. 5. All emergency rope breaks are handled "nose-down and straight ahead" unless you are so high that you decide on an abbreviated pattern. Very nice to have down-wind landings and dog-legs into adjacent fields a thing of the past. 6. On the negative side - visualize a power failure at 2000FT and where the cable/rope will go given the wind direction and strength. 7. On the negative side - you have to be "switched on". The first ten seconds of the launch requires complete focus. If something goes wrong and you expect to sort it out in real time, you're asking for it. You should have a plan of action and execute on cue. 8. We have the option of giving up a few hundred feet of rope and launching from the hard runway. When we don't have a wing runner, we do this. We have added a winch call - "go easy" - in between the "up slack" and "go" calls. The "go easy" call instructs the winch driver to give us enough speed to level the wings. Once leveled, we call in the "go go go" signal. This is our own creation and seems to work really well. In fact, it's a bit easier on the tail of the Grob as it doesn't tend to bang down from a rolling start. This allows us to operate with one pilot and one winch driver (who also drives retrieve). This probably wouldn't work on grass. 9. Driving the winch does get boring. Having the winch driver also driving retrieve seems to lessen the boredom (win-win) 10. Use Spectra/Dyneema, not steel cable (safetly, performance, handling - all better). 11. The winch has breathed excitement back into the operation. Students love it and request it for training. 12. The winch is drawing publicity. We have made the local papers twice. 13. We get to 2000 feet with two people in a Grob 103 Twin II in a 10 MPH headwind with 5000FT of Dyneema. 14, We operate from a Municipal Airport. We pull the runway lights at either end before commencing operations (Google Earth is a great tool for assessing winch potential. If you look at FBL, we stage the winch and glider about 300-400 feet off the ends of 30/12). We have had no accidents or incidents to date. Where aerotow is a more "focus here and then there and then the airport is quiet again" type launch operation, a winch operation requires constant attention, from launch to chute drop to retrieve to restaging, back to launch again. As soon as you get lax, a Piper will show up on short final with the retrieve car coming head-on the other way...and words will be spoken. :-) Contact me privately (use the Contact Us page of the web site) if you'd like more of my first year's experiences. Time to sleep! Good luck. (do it) -Don Ingraham |
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