US 2008 Competition Facts

On Jan 21, 7:22*pm, AK wrote:
On Jan 21, 4:32*pm, P1 wrote:





In 2008 there we

354 * * pilots who flew at least one contest day at a sanctioned
contest.
(In 2004 there were 408). This list is different from the Pilot
Ranking List as the PRL covers a three year period.
22 * * *contests at 19 sites. *Three sites had two contests
simultaneously.
* * * * 15 Regionals and 7 Nationals, including 1-26.
* * * * There were 5 contest sites that had 50 or more pilots with 2 of these
* * * * being combined Nationals or combined National/Regional.
114 * * contest days were flown. *Regionals had 65. *Nationals had 49.
* * * * Average number of contest days: *Regionals 4.5 and Nationals 7
5 * * * National contests flown west of the Mississippi River and 2 east
197 * * Total tasks were flown, being 143 TAT, 41 MAT and 13 AT
* * * * These tasks were divided as follows:
* * * * * * * * * * * * Regionals * * * * * * * Nationals * * * * * * * Total Tasks
* * * * TAT * * * * * * 114 * 77% * * * * * * * 29 * 60% * * * * * * * *143 * 69%
* * * * MAT * * * * * * 27 * *18% * * * * * * * 14 * 26% * * * * * * * * *41 * 24%
* * * * AT * * * * * * * 7 * *5% * * * * * * * * *6 * 14% * * * * * * * * 13 * * 7%

The 2008 WGC at Lesse had about 50% TAT and 50% AT (Racing)
The 2008 WGC at Rieti had about 33% TAT and 67% AT
This means that about 58% of the WGC tasks were AT (Racing task in
Europe)
* * * * with our Nationals having about 14%

Some facts for those who are interested!

67% of tasks in Club Class/Standard class were AT. Does anyone know
how many AT tasks we had this year in Sports and Standard class
nationals?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Due to the different performance of gliders participating in sports AT
tasks are not allowed so hopefully the number is zero. Rule 10.3.2.1
Assigned Task - not used.

On Jan 22, 7:50*am, Hal wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:22*pm, AK wrote:





On Jan 21, 4:32*pm, P1 wrote:

In 2008 there we

354 * * pilots who flew at least one contest day at a sanctioned
contest.
(In 2004 there were 408). This list is different from the Pilot
Ranking List as the PRL covers a three year period.
22 * * *contests at 19 sites. *Three sites had two contests
simultaneously.
* * * * 15 Regionals and 7 Nationals, including 1-26.
* * * * There were 5 contest sites that had 50 or more pilots with 2 of these
* * * * being combined Nationals or combined National/Regional.
114 * * contest days were flown. *Regionals had 65. *Nationals had 49.
* * * * Average number of contest days: *Regionals 4.5 and Nationals 7
5 * * * National contests flown west of the Mississippi River and 2 east
197 * * Total tasks were flown, being 143 TAT, 41 MAT and 13 AT
* * * * These tasks were divided as follows:
* * * * * * * * * * * * Regionals * * * * * * * Nationals * * * * * * * Total Tasks
* * * * TAT * * * * * * 114 * 77% * * * * * * * 29 * 60% * * * * * * * *143 * 69%
* * * * MAT * * * * * * 27 * *18% * * * * * * * 14 * 26% * * * * * * * * *41 * 24%
* * * * AT * * * * * * * 7 * *5% * * * * * * * * *6 * 14% * * * * * * * * 13 * * 7%

The 2008 WGC at Lesse had about 50% TAT and 50% AT (Racing)
The 2008 WGC at Rieti had about 33% TAT and 67% AT
This means that about 58% of the WGC tasks were AT (Racing task in
Europe)
* * * * with our Nationals having about 14%

Some facts for those who are interested!

67% of tasks in Club Class/Standard class were AT. Does anyone know
how many AT tasks we had this year in Sports and Standard class
nationals?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Due to the different performance of gliders participating in sports AT
tasks are not allowed so hopefully the number is zero. *Rule 10.3.2.1
Assigned Task - not used.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the actual logic behind not using AT tasks in sports? Are the
handicaps not accurate enough to level the playing field across
different gliders?

On Jan 22, 6:12*am, wrote:
On Jan 22, 7:50*am, Hal wrote:





On Jan 21, 7:22*pm, AK wrote:

On Jan 21, 4:32*pm, P1 wrote:

In 2008 there we

354 * * pilots who flew at least one contest day at a sanctioned
contest.
(In 2004 there were 408). This list is different from the Pilot
Ranking List as the PRL covers a three year period.
22 * * *contests at 19 sites. *Three sites had two contests
simultaneously.
* * * * 15 Regionals and 7 Nationals, including 1-26.
* * * * There were 5 contest sites that had 50 or more pilots with 2 of these
* * * * being combined Nationals or combined National/Regional.
114 * * contest days were flown. *Regionals had 65. *Nationals had 49.
* * * * Average number of contest days: *Regionals 4.5 and Nationals 7
5 * * * National contests flown west of the Mississippi River and 2 east
197 * * Total tasks were flown, being 143 TAT, 41 MAT and 13 AT
* * * * These tasks were divided as follows:
* * * * * * * * * * * * Regionals * * * * * * * Nationals * * * * * * * Total Tasks
* * * * TAT * * * * * * 114 * 77% * * * * * * * 29 * 60% * * * * * * * *143 * 69%
* * * * MAT * * * * * * 27 * *18% * * * * * * * 14 * 26% * * * * * * * * *41 * 24%
* * * * AT * * * * * * * 7 * *5% * * * * * * * * *6 * 14% * * * * * * * * 13 * * 7%

The 2008 WGC at Lesse had about 50% TAT and 50% AT (Racing)
The 2008 WGC at Rieti had about 33% TAT and 67% AT
This means that about 58% of the WGC tasks were AT (Racing task in
Europe)
* * * * with our Nationals having about 14%

Some facts for those who are interested!

67% of tasks in Club Class/Standard class were AT. Does anyone know
how many AT tasks we had this year in Sports and Standard class
nationals?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Due to the different performance of gliders participating in sports AT
tasks are not allowed so hopefully the number is zero. *Rule 10.3.2.1
Assigned Task - not used.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the actual logic behind not using AT tasks in sports? Are the
handicaps not accurate enough to *level the playing field across
different gliders?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The length of the AT does not have enough flexibility. If the AT task
distance is set to high the lower performance glider may not have time
to complete the task during the soarable part of the day. If the AT
task is set too low the higher performance gliders could complete the
task under the minimum time.

On Jan 22, 9:24*am, Hal wrote:
On Jan 22, 6:12*am, wrote:



On Jan 22, 7:50*am, Hal wrote:

On Jan 21, 7:22*pm, AK wrote:

On Jan 21, 4:32*pm, P1 wrote:

In 2008 there we

354 * * pilots who flew at least one contest day at a sanctioned
contest.
(In 2004 there were 408). This list is different from the Pilot
Ranking List as the PRL covers a three year period.
22 * * *contests at 19 sites. *Three sites had two contests
simultaneously.
* * * * 15 Regionals and 7 Nationals, including 1-26.
* * * * There were 5 contest sites that had 50 or more pilots with 2 of these
* * * * being combined Nationals or combined National/Regional.
114 * * contest days were flown. *Regionals had 65. *Nationals had 49.
* * * * Average number of contest days: *Regionals 4.5 and Nationals 7
5 * * * National contests flown west of the Mississippi River and 2 east
197 * * Total tasks were flown, being 143 TAT, 41 MAT and 13 AT
* * * * These tasks were divided as follows:
* * * * * * * * * * * * Regionals * * * * * * * Nationals * * * * * * * Total Tasks
* * * * TAT * * * * * * 114 * 77% * * * * * * * 29 * 60% * * * * * * * *143 * 69%
* * * * MAT * * * * * * 27 * *18% * * * * * * * 14 * 26% * * * * * * * * *41 * 24%
* * * * AT * * * * * * * 7 * *5% * * * * * * * * *6 * 14% * * * * * * * * 13 * * 7%

The 2008 WGC at Lesse had about 50% TAT and 50% AT (Racing)
The 2008 WGC at Rieti had about 33% TAT and 67% AT
This means that about 58% of the WGC tasks were AT (Racing task in
Europe)
* * * * with our Nationals having about 14%

Some facts for those who are interested!

67% of tasks in Club Class/Standard class were AT. Does anyone know
how many AT tasks we had this year in Sports and Standard class
nationals?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Due to the different performance of gliders participating in sports AT
tasks are not allowed so hopefully the number is zero. *Rule 10.3.2..1
Assigned Task - not used.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's the actual logic behind not using AT tasks in sports? Are the
handicaps not accurate enough to *level the playing field across
different gliders?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The length of the AT does not have enough flexibility. *If the AT task
distance is set to high the lower performance glider may not have time
to complete the task during the soarable part of the day. *If the AT
task is set too low the higher performance gliders could complete the
task under the minimum time.

This is why the club class has a more restricted range of handicaps.
Cirruses and ASW-15s can usually fly the same task as an ASW-24 or
1st generation Discus (to give some examples from the WGC last year).
A PW-5 and a Duo Discus in the same contest (as at the one I flew
last year) are stuck flying AAT or MAT.

Now at that same contest (directed by P1 by the way) we had an
interesting variation. The day he called a MAT for Sports class he
assigned 3 turnpoints. The day started late, so it was a challenge
to make it around even those 3 for some people. That was a fun
task!

-- Matt