Selling Aircraft

On Jan 26, 1:37*pm, Mike Adams wrote:
Jim Stewart wrote:
You can still fly light sport if you have a drivers license
and can self certify yourself safe.

Did they ever fix the Catch 22 on the light sport pilot that you can't
qualify with a drivers license if you've ever failed a regular flight
physical?

At that point though you really have to ask yourself why you should
care. So you putt around in your light sport. If at some point the FAA
finds out that you were once denied a medical you say sorry and put
your money into a bigger boat. I've never heard of a case in which the
FAA has actually given a pilot a prison sentence. As a pilot, CFI, and
aircraft owner I follow FAA regs to the letter. I do it because I have
a lot to lose. But if I were an old guy with a denied medical I would
no longer have anythnig to lose, so I'd say "screw 'em".

-Robert

Did they ever fix the Catch 22 on the light sport pilot that you can't
qualify with a drivers license if you've ever failed a regular flight
physical?

At that point though you really have to ask yourself why you should
care. So you putt around in your light sport. If at some point the FAA
finds out that you were once denied a medical you say sorry and put
your money into a bigger boat.

My thoughts exactly. Those silly and contradictory LSA medical
certification rules have turned an awful lot of good pilots into scofflaws,
and I don't blame them one bit.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Did they ever fix the Catch 22 on the light sport pilot that you can't
qualify with a drivers license if you've ever failed a regular flight
physical?

At that point though you really have to ask yourself why you should
care. So you putt around in your light sport. If at some point the FAA
finds out that you were once denied a medical you say sorry and put
your money into a bigger boat.

My thoughts exactly. Those silly and contradictory LSA medical
certification rules have turned an awful lot of good pilots into
scofflaws, and I don't blame them one bit.

My medical is up in April and I will let it lapse. No denial. As to LSA
you still have to self certify (not sure how many will be truthful), and
I cannot do that either. Looking for rides with friends.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

BTDT. Been flying since 1963. Bought a solid '75 Hawk new, hangared
and flew it 1700 HRS TT & gave it up 2 years ago as at 70 & with a
SI, I was facing a regulatory superstorm. I had flown only ~6 hrs in
my last year, and was looking at medical, annual insp, transponder
biennial, and biennial flight check from a new-to-me flight instructor
(My favorite was being sent to Iraq) in the next couple of months.

It sold in 3 days. It was funny-strange watching someone else fly it
away - for the first time.

But - I still have a 1941 Piper J4A for rebuilding & sport pilot etc
that hasn't flown since 1975. I don't miss the Cessna or that type of
flying anymore & reading the incredible fol-de-rol (sp?) of aircraft
operation in the AOPA websites, I now realize that maybe I became
almost a slave to it.

There is life after airplanes.

nrp wrote:
BTDT. Been flying since 1963. Bought a solid '75 Hawk new, hangared
and flew it 1700 HRS TT & gave it up 2 years ago as at 70 & with a
SI, I was facing a regulatory superstorm. I had flown only ~6 hrs in
my last year, and was looking at medical, annual insp, transponder
biennial, and biennial flight check from a new-to-me flight instructor
(My favorite was being sent to Iraq) in the next couple of months.

It sold in 3 days. It was funny-strange watching someone else fly it
away - for the first time.

But - I still have a 1941 Piper J4A for rebuilding & sport pilot etc
that hasn't flown since 1975. I don't miss the Cessna or that type of
flying anymore & reading the incredible fol-de-rol (sp?) of aircraft
operation in the AOPA websites, I now realize that maybe I became
almost a slave to it.

There is life after airplanes.

Thanks for that. I know there will be something to do. I just do not
want to take up golf again like my wife wants me to do. Maybe restoring
a plane or building one, even though I cannot fly will consume me. I
spent 3 years assisting on building a Murphy Moose.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

Ross makes a very good point here that is often misunderstood. LSA pilots
(like glider pilots) self-certify.
This is different from "not requiring a medical." The basic premise of the
medical exam is to rule out obvious disabilities (or at least defer them to
a demonstration of ability) and then frame your sudden risk of
incapacitation based on the class of medical.

The LSA requires an unrestricted drivers license which provides for the
first component (you don't require hand controls or a seeing eye dog) and
you are expected to use adult common sense on your known health conditions
for the latter.

Ross, sorry to hear about selling your airplane. I applaud your judgement
and am sure its an insight into your cockpit decision making. We will all
join there eventually if not abruptly.

Regards
Todd


"Ross" wrote in message
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As to LSA you still have to self certify (not sure how many will be
truthful), and

Todd W. Deckard wrote:
Ross makes a very good point here that is often misunderstood. LSA pilots
(like glider pilots) self-certify.
This is different from "not requiring a medical." The basic premise of the
medical exam is to rule out obvious disabilities (or at least defer them to
a demonstration of ability) and then frame your sudden risk of
incapacitation based on the class of medical.

The LSA requires an unrestricted drivers license which provides for the
first component (you don't require hand controls or a seeing eye dog) and
you are expected to use adult common sense on your known health conditions
for the latter.

Ross, sorry to hear about selling your airplane. I applaud your judgement
and am sure its an insight into your cockpit decision making. We will all
join there eventually if not abruptly.

Regards
Todd


"Ross" wrote in message
...
As to LSA you still have to self certify (not sure how many will be
truthful), and



Thanks. I am just glad I was able to sell it so quickly to a good friend
that knew how well it was maintained in the last 12 years. When I sold
my 21' boat back in '96 it was the same thing, a good friend bought it
with out a hassle because of the care it had.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

On the other hand, if I really was risking my own and other's lives by
flying without a safety pilot, then maybe it's not worth it. How would my
family and friends (or my dog!) suffer from an accident? How would my
survivors' future lives suffer if a lawsuit took away my estate? I would
need to weigh the risks and benefits carefully.

--
Best Regards,
Mike.

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
...
On Jan 26, 1:37 pm, Mike Adams wrote:
Jim Stewart wrote:
You can still fly light sport if you have a drivers license
and can self certify yourself safe.

Did they ever fix the Catch 22 on the light sport pilot that you can't
qualify with a drivers license if you've ever failed a regular flight
physical?

At that point though you really have to ask yourself why you should
care. So you putt around in your light sport. If at some point the FAA
finds out that you were once denied a medical you say sorry and put
your money into a bigger boat. I've never heard of a case in which the
FAA has actually given a pilot a prison sentence. As a pilot, CFI, and
aircraft owner I follow FAA regs to the letter. I do it because I have
a lot to lose. But if I were an old guy with a denied medical I would
no longer have anythnig to lose, so I'd say "screw 'em".

-Robert