Short Wings Gliders

On Feb 1, 4:00*am, Dan Silent wrote:
At 03:09 28 January 2009, RRK wrote:

How many gliders with a wing span of 13.5 or less do you know?

1 * * * Apis-13 * * * * * * * * 13.3
2 * * * BG135 *
3 * * * Carbon Dragon * 13.4
4 * * * Cessna CG-2 * * * * * * 11.0
5 * * * Cherokee II * * * * * * 12.2
6 * * * Duster 13.1 m * * * * * 13.1
7 * * * H101 Salto * * *
8 * * * L0 100 *
9 * * * Monarch * * * * * * * * 12.8
10 * * *Monerai S * * * * * * * * * * * 11.0
11 * * *MU xyz *
12 * * *Pioneer II * * * * * * * * * * *13.0
13 * * *PW-5 * * * * * * * * * *13.4
14 * * *Russia *
15 * * *Schweizer 1-26 *12.2
16 * * *Silent 2 * * * * * * * * * * * *13.0
17 * * *Silent 2 Targa * * * * *13.3
18 * * *Silent Club * * * * * * 12.0
19 * * *Slingaby Swallow * * * *
20 * * *Sparrowhawk * * * * * * 11.0
21 * * *SW-1 Swift * * *
22 * * *SZD-59 Acro * * * * * * 13.2
23 * * *WindRose * * * * * * * * * * * *12.7
24 * * *Woodstock * * *
25 * *Ka6 * * * * * * * * * * * * *14.1

Don't forget the Irv Culver "Screamin' Weiner" 10.97m span a.k.a. Li'l
Dogie (Wally Wiberg) and the Culver "Rigid Midget" 11.58m . These
designs placed 2nd in 1946 and 1947 U.S. Nationals. Flown by Ray
Parker and Paul MacCready. Had a world out and return record in the
1940s also.

At 20:52 02 February 2009, wrote:
On Feb 1, 4:00=A0am, Dan Silent wrote:
At 03:09 28 January 2009, RRK wrote:

How many gliders with a wing span of 13.5 or less do you know?

1 Apis-13 13.3
2 BG135
3 Carbon Dragon 13.4
4 Cessna CG-2 11.0
5 Cherokee II 12.2
6 Duster 13.1 m 13.1
7 H101 Salto
8 L0 100
9 Monarch 12.8
10 Monerai S 11.0
11 MU xy
12 Pioneer II 13.0
13 PW-5 13.4
14 Russia
15 Schweizer 1-26 12.2
16 Silent 2 13.0
17 Silent 2 Targa 13.3
18 Silent Club 12.0
19 Slingaby Swallow
20 Sparrowhawk 11.0
21 SW-1 Swift
22 SZD-59 Acro 13.2
23 WindRose 12.7
24 Woodstock
25 Screamin' Weiner 11.0
26 Rigid Midget 11.6

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

At 20:52 02 February 2009, wrote:
On Feb 1, 4:00=A0am, Dan Silent wrote:
At 03:09 28 January 2009, RRK wrote:

How many gliders with a wing span of 13.5 or less do you know?

1 Apis-13 13.3
2 BG135
3 Carbon Dragon 13.4
4 Cessna CG-2 11.0
5 Cherokee II 12.2
6 Duster 13.1 m 13.1
7 H101 Salto
8 L0 100
9 Monarch 12.8
10 Monerai S 11.0
11 MU xy
12 Pioneer II 13.0
13 PW-5 13.4
14 Russia
15 Schweizer 1-26 12.2
16 Silent 2 13.0
17 Silent 2 Targa 13.3
18 Silent Club 12.0
19 Slingaby Swallow
20 Sparrowhawk 11.0
21 SW-1 Swift
22 SZD-59 Acro 13.2
23 WindRose 12.7
24 Woodstock
25 Screamin' Weiner 11.0
26 Rigid Midget 11.6

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

At 01:00 03 February 2009, Dan Silent wrote:
possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

Volksclasse ?

On Feb 2, 8:15*pm, Ian Cant wrote:
At 01:00 03 February 2009, Dan Silent wrote:

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

Volksclasse ?

SIFOW of course :-)

SIFOW = Span Is FOr Wimps.

That's what I told myself when I sold my share in an elderly Nimbus 2 and
bought a somewhat newer Standard Cirrus instead. But I still land out more
often in the 15m Cirrus than I did in the 21.9m (extended span) Nimbus.

I have tiny shares in an 18m Bocian 2 seater and a 13.5m Slingsby Swallow
(both Vintage) and I do fly them cross country, but I tend to pick the
better days for these flights. In the Swallow, I once made the mistake of
leaving a thermal before I reached the 5000ft cloudbase, because I didn't
think it was good enough, and got down to 500 ft before I contacted the
next one!.....Phew! I did however go on to complete the planned 220km O/R
flight.

Derek Copeland


At 03:46 03 February 2009, toad wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:15=A0pm, Ian Cant wrote:
At 01:00 03 February 2009, Dan Silent wrote:

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

Volksclasse ?

SIFOW of course :-)

At 03:46 03 February 2009, toad wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:15=A0pm, Ian Cant wrote:
At 01:00 03 February 2009, Dan Silent wrote:

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

Volksclasse ?


MAYBE BETTER:

PeopleKlasse

One Class to rule them all, one Class to find them...

/runes

Add the Celstar GA-1 11.0m (South Africa)

At 01:00 03 February 2009, Dan Silent wrote:
At 20:52 02 February 2009, wrote:
On Feb 1, 4:00=A0am, Dan Silent wrote:
At 03:09 28 January 2009, RRK wrote:

How many gliders with a wing span of 13.5 or less do you know?

1 Apis-13 13.3
2 BG135
3 Carbon Dragon 13.4
4 Cessna CG-2 11.0
5 Cherokee II 12.2
6 Duster 13.1 m 13.1
7 H101 Salto
8 L0 100
9 Monarch 12.8
10 Monerai S 11.0
11 MU xy
12 Pioneer II 13.0
13 PW-5 13.4
14 Russia
15 Schweizer 1-26 12.2
16 Silent 2 13.0
17 Silent 2 Targa 13.3
18 Silent Club 12.0
19 Slingaby Swallow
20 Sparrowhawk 11.0
21 SW-1 Swift
22 SZD-59 Acro 13.2
23 WindRose 12.7
24 Woodstock
25 Screamin' Weiner 11.0
26 Rigid Midget 11.6

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???

How about
* the Grunau at 13.57 meters (OK shave 0.07 meters off if you must) or
* the Ka1 and Ka3 each at 10 meters or
* the Hütter 17 at 9.69 meters or
if you want to do have a helper in the back seat downloading the latest
info while you fly,
* the Schweizer SGU 2-22 at 13.11 meters.

It is interesting to note that the Grunau Baby was made in more numbers
than the total of all the gliders in the list below.

How about calling it the Maxi class?

David Smith wrote:
Add the Celstar GA-1 11.0m (South Africa)

At 01:00 03 February 2009, Dan Silent wrote:

At 20:52 02 February 2009, wrote:

On Feb 1, 4:00=A0am, Dan Silent wrote:

At 03:09 28 January 2009, RRK wrote:


How many gliders with a wing span of 13.5 or less do you know?

1 Apis-13 13.3
2 BG135
3 Carbon Dragon 13.4
4 Cessna CG-2 11.0
5 Cherokee II 12.2
6 Duster 13.1 m 13.1
7 H101 Salto
8 L0 100
9 Monarch 12.8
10 Monerai S 11.0
11 MU xy
12 Pioneer II 13.0
13 PW-5 13.4
14 Russia
15 Schweizer 1-26 12.2
16 Silent 2 13.0
17 Silent 2 Targa 13.3
18 Silent Club 12.0
19 Slingaby Swallow
20 Sparrowhawk 11.0
21 SW-1 Swift
22 SZD-59 Acro 13.2
23 WindRose 12.7
24 Woodstock
25 Screamin' Weiner 11.0
26 Rigid Midget 11.6

possible names for the new class:

"US class"
"NON EUROPE class"
"20PCT class"
"DWARF class"
"WC class"
"TINS4WS class"

OTHER SUGGESTIONS???